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	<title>Comments on: Ask the readers: Zen To Done &#8211; minimal vs. full version?</title>
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		<title>By: Loida Pena</title>
		<link>http://zenhabits.net/2007/04/ask-the-readers-zen-to-done-minimal-vs-full-version/#comment-47124</link>
		<dc:creator>Loida Pena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 03:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely prefer minimal.  I&#039;m sure ZTD full truly is deeper and more filled with good habits but it&#039;s simply too much for a busy college student like me.  
On a side note, I can easily manage ZTD much better than I can GTD.  Though I rarely get to my blue book I feel I do the most important things in a day.
I would like to see a post on how ZTD could specifically apply to a student (even though I already know how :P).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely prefer minimal.  I&#8217;m sure ZTD full truly is deeper and more filled with good habits but it&#8217;s simply too much for a busy college student like me.<br />
On a side note, I can easily manage ZTD much better than I can GTD.  Though I rarely get to my blue book I feel I do the most important things in a day.<br />
I would like to see a post on how ZTD could specifically apply to a student (even though I already know how :P).</p>
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		<title>By: Leo</title>
		<link>http://zenhabits.net/2007/04/ask-the-readers-zen-to-done-minimal-vs-full-version/#comment-3154</link>
		<dc:creator>Leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 22:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys ... thanks for all your comments and suggestions. Be assured that I&#039;m taking them into consideration.

@Christian ... I&#039;m glad if Zen Habits has been an inspiration. Thank you for the positive feedback and all your suggestions. I&#039;m trying to develop a way for people to navigate through the archives better, and some of your suggestions definitely help me. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys &#8230; thanks for all your comments and suggestions. Be assured that I&#8217;m taking them into consideration.</p>
<p>@Christian &#8230; I&#8217;m glad if Zen Habits has been an inspiration. Thank you for the positive feedback and all your suggestions. I&#8217;m trying to develop a way for people to navigate through the archives better, and some of your suggestions definitely help me. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Tietze</title>
		<link>http://zenhabits.net/2007/04/ask-the-readers-zen-to-done-minimal-vs-full-version/#comment-3115</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian Tietze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 14:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>
I&#039;m grabbing what is useful :)
Write all your habit posts down&#8212;but don&#039;t publish them all at once. You waste &quot;momentum&quot; of ZTD that&#039;s increasing with every new post you write. Develop your new sibling by the way. Get out of your head what bugs you and kep up a steady pace.

And assemble your ZTD posts in a central post! You actually have one, but not every habit (except &quot;1 collect&quot;) is linking to the detailed page. Update it to get a comprehensive starting point, a ZTD-portal :) Or create a subdomain/sub-folder for this so people can visit this &quot;project&quot; of yours more frequently and browse through related content.
You have a lot of cool series (and &quot;projects&quot; like ZTD!) going on from time to time but often there&#039;s no convenient way to see what new things are added. You know, the categories list is ONE way, but for me, it isn&#039;t a very accessible approach. You&#039;re not writing about a certain topic in a linear way. You change your blog topic every weekday &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; have &quot;side-quests&quot;/projects/series running... Assemble them! Create a static page and put things in order, make lists of posts, write &quot;portal articles&quot; that provide orientation for those who want to continue reading a series of yours but just don&#039;t know where the starting point is.
Your whole blog is an invaluable source of inspiration... I don&#039;t know, I came here because of GTD but now your blog provided just so much more than that! My original aim transformed into something new, a niche which I dodn&#039;t know of&#8212;and which your blog fills greatly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m grabbing what is useful :)<br />
Write all your habit posts down&mdash;but don&#8217;t publish them all at once. You waste &#8220;momentum&#8221; of ZTD that&#8217;s increasing with every new post you write. Develop your new sibling by the way. Get out of your head what bugs you and kep up a steady pace.</p>
<p>And assemble your ZTD posts in a central post! You actually have one, but not every habit (except &#8220;1 collect&#8221;) is linking to the detailed page. Update it to get a comprehensive starting point, a ZTD-portal :) Or create a subdomain/sub-folder for this so people can visit this &#8220;project&#8221; of yours more frequently and browse through related content.<br />
You have a lot of cool series (and &#8220;projects&#8221; like ZTD!) going on from time to time but often there&#8217;s no convenient way to see what new things are added. You know, the categories list is ONE way, but for me, it isn&#8217;t a very accessible approach. You&#8217;re not writing about a certain topic in a linear way. You change your blog topic every weekday <em>and</em> have &#8220;side-quests&#8221;/projects/series running&#8230; Assemble them! Create a static page and put things in order, make lists of posts, write &#8220;portal articles&#8221; that provide orientation for those who want to continue reading a series of yours but just don&#8217;t know where the starting point is.<br />
Your whole blog is an invaluable source of inspiration&#8230; I don&#8217;t know, I came here because of GTD but now your blog provided just so much more than that! My original aim transformed into something new, a niche which I dodn&#8217;t know of&mdash;and which your blog fills greatly.</p>
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		<title>By: Hazel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hazel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 10:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would prefer to have the full ZTD. A couple of the habits I already have (even if I don&#039;t always exercise them as regularly as I ought) and if I&#039;m going to spend a week re-focusing and then moving on to a month of acquiring a new habit I want to be able to see where I&#039;m going!
Great blog - always useful to be reminded of what I ought to be doing - which at the moment is NOT reading/commenting in blogland but should be developing a menu-based interface to a jobs and training website. Procrastination rules on a sunny Saturday whilst looking after the grandchildren!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would prefer to have the full ZTD. A couple of the habits I already have (even if I don&#8217;t always exercise them as regularly as I ought) and if I&#8217;m going to spend a week re-focusing and then moving on to a month of acquiring a new habit I want to be able to see where I&#8217;m going!<br />
Great blog &#8211; always useful to be reminded of what I ought to be doing &#8211; which at the moment is NOT reading/commenting in blogland but should be developing a menu-based interface to a jobs and training website. Procrastination rules on a sunny Saturday whilst looking after the grandchildren!</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 05:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m keen to the full version, but spread out over a few weeks. You could try and work in some reader participation that way too. But why have a fixed number? Why not have as many as you feel like? It seems more zen to say:

There are many habits. Some are Zen. Others are not.

Like you said, GTD isn&#039;t horribly flawed as is, so maybe the problem isn&#039;t with the specifics, but the approach people take to it. 

My favorite part of this blog is that it doesn&#039;t focus on any specific topic, and it doesn&#039;t take the whole GTD frenzy too seriously. Too many GTD bloggers out there sound like recovered alcoholics preaching against the demon rum of ineffective personal organization systems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m keen to the full version, but spread out over a few weeks. You could try and work in some reader participation that way too. But why have a fixed number? Why not have as many as you feel like? It seems more zen to say:</p>
<p>There are many habits. Some are Zen. Others are not.</p>
<p>Like you said, GTD isn&#8217;t horribly flawed as is, so maybe the problem isn&#8217;t with the specifics, but the approach people take to it. </p>
<p>My favorite part of this blog is that it doesn&#8217;t focus on any specific topic, and it doesn&#8217;t take the whole GTD frenzy too seriously. Too many GTD bloggers out there sound like recovered alcoholics preaching against the demon rum of ineffective personal organization systems.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 16:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leo, I&#039;m still working my way through the GTD book - Mr Allen surely owes you some kind of cut from the extra monies you&#039;ve channelled his way, eh?! - so I&#039;ve consciously chosen not to read through your full ZTD material for the moment. I did read through the overview of it that you posted several days ago, and believe that I got the gist.

But I thought it best to avoid starting GTD with too much information, and to get the original GTD system into my mind and routine pure and all-complete first before starting to explore variations. But from what I&#039;ve garnered from the GTD book so far, it does seem tilted at the kind of working professional I manifestly am not. (I cannot help but wince whenever Mr Allen throws out his examples, e.g. &#039;Ask Sean to update the agenda for the presentation&#039; et al.) Thus I think that I definitely will end up adapting it to suit my own needs, and anything with the word Zen in it will likely be a first port of call.

So I&#039;d like for there to be a one-stop location for your system in time, perhaps with its own section.

I don&#039;t think there&#039;s any harm in you posting ZTD either in place of or parallel to your regular daily features.

Is it possible to be too productive? I don&#039;t think so. Nobody is forcing anyone to read anything. I think that there&#039;s some hostility to reading on the internet - sometimes some people almost seem to take offence at being presented with a slab of text to digest. They don&#039;t have to read it.

I found ZenHabits via a post you made on Lifehacker. I read in an interview with Gina Trapani yesterday that she aims to update her site around 7 times per day, with at least one new substantive post. It puzzles me how you could be reproached for posting too much material.

I&#039;m on the last leg of the GTD book and will fully implement it soon (I&#039;ve got a half-baked, largely chaotic version in place at the moment; I know, this is very bad of me...) - then I&#039;d be better placed to judge the ZTD full/minimalist question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leo, I&#8217;m still working my way through the GTD book &#8211; Mr Allen surely owes you some kind of cut from the extra monies you&#8217;ve channelled his way, eh?! &#8211; so I&#8217;ve consciously chosen not to read through your full ZTD material for the moment. I did read through the overview of it that you posted several days ago, and believe that I got the gist.</p>
<p>But I thought it best to avoid starting GTD with too much information, and to get the original GTD system into my mind and routine pure and all-complete first before starting to explore variations. But from what I&#8217;ve garnered from the GTD book so far, it does seem tilted at the kind of working professional I manifestly am not. (I cannot help but wince whenever Mr Allen throws out his examples, e.g. &#8216;Ask Sean to update the agenda for the presentation&#8217; et al.) Thus I think that I definitely will end up adapting it to suit my own needs, and anything with the word Zen in it will likely be a first port of call.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;d like for there to be a one-stop location for your system in time, perhaps with its own section.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s any harm in you posting ZTD either in place of or parallel to your regular daily features.</p>
<p>Is it possible to be too productive? I don&#8217;t think so. Nobody is forcing anyone to read anything. I think that there&#8217;s some hostility to reading on the internet &#8211; sometimes some people almost seem to take offence at being presented with a slab of text to digest. They don&#8217;t have to read it.</p>
<p>I found ZenHabits via a post you made on Lifehacker. I read in an interview with Gina Trapani yesterday that she aims to update her site around 7 times per day, with at least one new substantive post. It puzzles me how you could be reproached for posting too much material.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m on the last leg of the GTD book and will fully implement it soon (I&#8217;ve got a half-baked, largely chaotic version in place at the moment; I know, this is very bad of me&#8230;) &#8211; then I&#8217;d be better placed to judge the ZTD full/minimalist question.</p>
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		<title>By: Happy Rock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Happy Rock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Minimalist.

That is just my nature.  I personally think it captures everything I want to do in a system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Minimalist.</p>
<p>That is just my nature.  I personally think it captures everything I want to do in a system.</p>
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		<title>By: Emeka Okorafor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emeka Okorafor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leo,

Your blog is the best I&#039;ve read on implementing GTD. Why?
Because you simplified it to the bare essentials and focused on forming new habits. I think the lack of structure in GTD lends to procrastination and tinkering with setting up a system.

I&#039;ve been trying to implement GTD for over a year now unsuccessfully.  Recently I realized I needed to simplify and form new habits.  I couldn&#039;t have found your blog at a better time!

Both the minimalist ZTD and full are great.  I would suggest guiding new GTD users to hit the ground running with the minimalist ZTD, sorta like training wheels, and then transition to adding more habits in the full version.

This is great. Thank you for doing what you&#039;re doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leo,</p>
<p>Your blog is the best I&#8217;ve read on implementing GTD. Why?<br />
Because you simplified it to the bare essentials and focused on forming new habits. I think the lack of structure in GTD lends to procrastination and tinkering with setting up a system.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been trying to implement GTD for over a year now unsuccessfully.  Recently I realized I needed to simplify and form new habits.  I couldn&#8217;t have found your blog at a better time!</p>
<p>Both the minimalist ZTD and full are great.  I would suggest guiding new GTD users to hit the ground running with the minimalist ZTD, sorta like training wheels, and then transition to adding more habits in the full version.</p>
<p>This is great. Thank you for doing what you&#8217;re doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Ford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Ford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like Bruno, I&#039;ve only been reading Zen Habits for just over a week (I can&#039;t unfortunately remember what brought it to my attention) and have been absolutely blown away by the quality of the content.

So a very big &quot;Thank You!&quot; to Leo for everything he does here.

As someone who has struggled getting up and running with GTD (due mainly to the fact that I am a person with ADD), the simplistic approach of ZTD appealed immediately. So as not to get too lost I&#039;m starting with the minimalist version and will grow from there as required.

I now have everything to support the Minimalist version, so the speed at which the rest appears doesn&#039;t worry me :)

Of all the content here, ZTD is uppermost in my mind right now, so it&#039;s very hard to say if anything else has or will prove more useful. Ask me again in six months.

For my own use I&#039;ve turned all the article related to Minimalist ZTD into PDFs. Each section has footnotes to additional reading and the URL of the original article. I&#039;ve printed them out on A5 paper that I&#039;m going to get bound so I can have it with me all the time. I&#039;ll happily send a zip file of these on to Leo if he&#039;d like to make them available.

- Neil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Bruno, I&#8217;ve only been reading Zen Habits for just over a week (I can&#8217;t unfortunately remember what brought it to my attention) and have been absolutely blown away by the quality of the content.</p>
<p>So a very big &#8220;Thank You!&#8221; to Leo for everything he does here.</p>
<p>As someone who has struggled getting up and running with GTD (due mainly to the fact that I am a person with ADD), the simplistic approach of ZTD appealed immediately. So as not to get too lost I&#8217;m starting with the minimalist version and will grow from there as required.</p>
<p>I now have everything to support the Minimalist version, so the speed at which the rest appears doesn&#8217;t worry me :)</p>
<p>Of all the content here, ZTD is uppermost in my mind right now, so it&#8217;s very hard to say if anything else has or will prove more useful. Ask me again in six months.</p>
<p>For my own use I&#8217;ve turned all the article related to Minimalist ZTD into PDFs. Each section has footnotes to additional reading and the URL of the original article. I&#8217;ve printed them out on A5 paper that I&#8217;m going to get bound so I can have it with me all the time. I&#8217;ll happily send a zip file of these on to Leo if he&#8217;d like to make them available.</p>
<p>- Neil.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 09:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think both systems are equally valid.</description>
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