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		<title>By: Carrie</title>
		<link>http://zenhabits.net/2007/04/how-to-get-your-credit-score-up-and-how-not-to-care/#comment-75857</link>
		<dc:creator>Carrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 02:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with the statement &quot;no one held a gun to their head and said run up debt,&quot; the credit companies are literally holding you hostage for your promise to pay them back for supposed &quot;emergency money&quot; they lent you, and if you pay late, they will ruin your credit file. I&#039;m shaking in my boots! Credit today is so overrated. The concept being, &quot;I think I will charge this on my Visa with imaginary money, live on a hope and a prayer that I don&#039;t lose my job in the next 14 days so I can pay this bill, and when and if I get paid, pay Visa, have no money again, charge again, pay bill again, it&#039;s a revolving circle of confusion. All this and hoping your hours at work don&#039;t get cut back, you are up the creek without a paddle. Sad state of affairs for a credit rating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with the statement &#8220;no one held a gun to their head and said run up debt,&#8221; the credit companies are literally holding you hostage for your promise to pay them back for supposed &#8220;emergency money&#8221; they lent you, and if you pay late, they will ruin your credit file. I&#8217;m shaking in my boots! Credit today is so overrated. The concept being, &#8220;I think I will charge this on my Visa with imaginary money, live on a hope and a prayer that I don&#8217;t lose my job in the next 14 days so I can pay this bill, and when and if I get paid, pay Visa, have no money again, charge again, pay bill again, it&#8217;s a revolving circle of confusion. All this and hoping your hours at work don&#8217;t get cut back, you are up the creek without a paddle. Sad state of affairs for a credit rating.</p>
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		<title>By: Tips For Improving Your Financial Life… thornton &#124; Performance Chiropractic Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tips For Improving Your Financial Life… thornton &#124; Performance Chiropractic Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 01:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Golden Money List: Hundreds of Tips for Turning Your Financial Life Around &#171; www.awwwww.cc</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Golden Money List: Hundreds of Tips for Turning Your Financial Life Around &#171; www.awwwww.cc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 03:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: My Get Things Done List &#187; Blog Archive &#187; April’s Best Posts [zen habits]</title>
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		<dc:creator>My Get Things Done List &#187; Blog Archive &#187; April’s Best Posts [zen habits]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 04:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: David Mottley</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Mottley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 22:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have about $17,000 in credit card debt and my credit score is about 628. If I pay off all the debt how quickly and by how much will my score improve?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have about $17,000 in credit card debt and my credit score is about 628. If I pay off all the debt how quickly and by how much will my score improve?</p>
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		<title>By: John K</title>
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		<dc:creator>John K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 21:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will agree with some of that and your right to disagree! :-)  The bottom line is not credit, but misuse of credit that leads to problems.  Millionaires owe hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt, but manage it (or some do better than others).  How much debt does a multi-billion dollar corporation hold?

On the other hand, if $1,000 of medical bills will turn your entire life upside down and cost you lots of money, I&#039;d rather have that $1,000 in a credit line then not be able to feed my family just from one freak incident.  If I don&#039;t have that backup savings, if I have used it up, or if I never planned for it, at least a line of credit might put food on the table until I pay off those other bills.  If I really get problems, at least I have fed the family for as long as I could before going belly up.

I do see your point, but the main issue is that the majority of people misuse and abuse credit.  Whether it is poor training or the fault of credit agencies that push cards on people starting on the Freshman year of college (even some high-school seniors), is immaterial.  You can only blame one person for debt:  The person who signs the paperwork.  No one held a gun to their head and said &quot;sign for this card and run up a huge debt, or we will go after your family next&quot;.

I personally think more people need to take more responsibility with their own actions and not try to blame credit for &quot;evil&quot;.  Many people would not be able to drive a car or live in a house without it.  Entrepeneurs open new businesses with nothing but an idea and a  line of credit, but they also have a business plan.  With the privledge comes the responsibility.  I don&#039;t buy the &quot;lemmings&quot; rule about it being an issue because so many people follow.  I think, a whole generation of spoiled people were raised to think &quot;charge it, I&#039;ll pay it later&quot;, without worrying about the results of their actions.  That is not the fault of the credit agencies, that is the fault of the irresponsible consumer who doesn&#039;t know how to manage money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will agree with some of that and your right to disagree! :-)  The bottom line is not credit, but misuse of credit that leads to problems.  Millionaires owe hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt, but manage it (or some do better than others).  How much debt does a multi-billion dollar corporation hold?</p>
<p>On the other hand, if $1,000 of medical bills will turn your entire life upside down and cost you lots of money, I&#8217;d rather have that $1,000 in a credit line then not be able to feed my family just from one freak incident.  If I don&#8217;t have that backup savings, if I have used it up, or if I never planned for it, at least a line of credit might put food on the table until I pay off those other bills.  If I really get problems, at least I have fed the family for as long as I could before going belly up.</p>
<p>I do see your point, but the main issue is that the majority of people misuse and abuse credit.  Whether it is poor training or the fault of credit agencies that push cards on people starting on the Freshman year of college (even some high-school seniors), is immaterial.  You can only blame one person for debt:  The person who signs the paperwork.  No one held a gun to their head and said &#8220;sign for this card and run up a huge debt, or we will go after your family next&#8221;.</p>
<p>I personally think more people need to take more responsibility with their own actions and not try to blame credit for &#8220;evil&#8221;.  Many people would not be able to drive a car or live in a house without it.  Entrepeneurs open new businesses with nothing but an idea and a  line of credit, but they also have a business plan.  With the privledge comes the responsibility.  I don&#8217;t buy the &#8220;lemmings&#8221; rule about it being an issue because so many people follow.  I think, a whole generation of spoiled people were raised to think &#8220;charge it, I&#8217;ll pay it later&#8221;, without worrying about the results of their actions.  That is not the fault of the credit agencies, that is the fault of the irresponsible consumer who doesn&#8217;t know how to manage money.</p>
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		<title>By: Leo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 20:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi John K ... well, I knew from the outset that many people would disagree with this article. Credit cards seem to be a very deep-rooted issue for many people. As I said in the article, credit can be a good tool if used carefully. But the truth is, for most people, they are dangerous and end up causing financial ruin. The data backs me up on this. You can&#039;t just blame it on the individual people -- it&#039;s a long-term strategy for credit card companies to allow people to get into more debt than they can repay, and then allow them to only pay the minimum each month, milking them of high interest rates. This is exactly why they have things like cash back or mileage rewards, no fees, guarantees on your purchases, etc -- so they can get people to charge money and eventually pay back a lot of interest.

And there&#039;s no such thing as a free loan -- it&#039;s free for you, that time, but for many, it ends up being a very expensive loan. Let&#039;s say I charge $1,000 on my card, knowing that I will get paid before the bill comes, and intending to pay it back right away. Free loan! But then an emergency comes up, and I have to use that money to fix my car or pay for a hospital bill. You might already be prepared for that, but for many people, this is an entirely realistic situation. Now they cannot pay the credit card bill, and in fact will be underwater trying to get back to the surface for many months before they can pay back that $1,000 purchase (with a lot of interest). That&#039;s the danger of credit cards. A much smarter approach is to wait until you actually have the money, and pay in cash. No danger.

Thanks for your comments and tips, John K. I will admit that credit cards may work for you, but they don&#039;t work for many others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John K &#8230; well, I knew from the outset that many people would disagree with this article. Credit cards seem to be a very deep-rooted issue for many people. As I said in the article, credit can be a good tool if used carefully. But the truth is, for most people, they are dangerous and end up causing financial ruin. The data backs me up on this. You can&#8217;t just blame it on the individual people &#8212; it&#8217;s a long-term strategy for credit card companies to allow people to get into more debt than they can repay, and then allow them to only pay the minimum each month, milking them of high interest rates. This is exactly why they have things like cash back or mileage rewards, no fees, guarantees on your purchases, etc &#8212; so they can get people to charge money and eventually pay back a lot of interest.</p>
<p>And there&#8217;s no such thing as a free loan &#8212; it&#8217;s free for you, that time, but for many, it ends up being a very expensive loan. Let&#8217;s say I charge $1,000 on my card, knowing that I will get paid before the bill comes, and intending to pay it back right away. Free loan! But then an emergency comes up, and I have to use that money to fix my car or pay for a hospital bill. You might already be prepared for that, but for many people, this is an entirely realistic situation. Now they cannot pay the credit card bill, and in fact will be underwater trying to get back to the surface for many months before they can pay back that $1,000 purchase (with a lot of interest). That&#8217;s the danger of credit cards. A much smarter approach is to wait until you actually have the money, and pay in cash. No danger.</p>
<p>Thanks for your comments and tips, John K. I will admit that credit cards may work for you, but they don&#8217;t work for many others.</p>
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		<title>By: John K</title>
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		<dc:creator>John K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 19:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally disagree with your article.  Credit is not bad, misusing this valuable tool is bad.  The card sits there until a human uses it.  If you made a bad choice in selecting a card or use it wrong, don&#039;t blame the card or the Credit Bureau.

If I make an online purchase with my bank&#039;s debit card and it is misused, I might never see that money again, but some credit cards offer a &quot;guarantee&quot; that you will never pay for &quot;fraudulent charges&quot;.  I have one of these cards and use is only for online purchases.

What&#039;s more, as long as I pay that charge off within the grace period, I pay no interest.  It is like a 25-30 day loan for free.

Keeping a credit account open for long periods of time without using the credit can hurt you in the long run.  Are you keeping a credit card with a high credit limit open just to improve your score, but paying $25-60 a year in an annual fee?  If so, get a no-fee card and close that old one.  If you do carry a balance from month to month, 30% interest adds up much faster than 8.5%  Shop around for rates if you intend to carry a balance from month to month.

Finally, many credit card companies will close your account if you dont use them from time to time, so if nothing else, make a small charge on each card once or twice a year and pay it off in the same month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally disagree with your article.  Credit is not bad, misusing this valuable tool is bad.  The card sits there until a human uses it.  If you made a bad choice in selecting a card or use it wrong, don&#8217;t blame the card or the Credit Bureau.</p>
<p>If I make an online purchase with my bank&#8217;s debit card and it is misused, I might never see that money again, but some credit cards offer a &#8220;guarantee&#8221; that you will never pay for &#8220;fraudulent charges&#8221;.  I have one of these cards and use is only for online purchases.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s more, as long as I pay that charge off within the grace period, I pay no interest.  It is like a 25-30 day loan for free.</p>
<p>Keeping a credit account open for long periods of time without using the credit can hurt you in the long run.  Are you keeping a credit card with a high credit limit open just to improve your score, but paying $25-60 a year in an annual fee?  If so, get a no-fee card and close that old one.  If you do carry a balance from month to month, 30% interest adds up much faster than 8.5%  Shop around for rates if you intend to carry a balance from month to month.</p>
<p>Finally, many credit card companies will close your account if you dont use them from time to time, so if nothing else, make a small charge on each card once or twice a year and pay it off in the same month.</p>
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		<title>By: Leo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 12:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Greg ... while I understand your objections to Ramsey&#039;s personal contradictions, I think if you consider the ideas themselves without considering the person, some of them have merit. Personally, I think what he preaches, even if I don&#039;t agree with his style, is good advice for most people. It wouldn&#039;t work for everybody, but for a lot of people out there, what he&#039;s saying is exactly what they need to hear. Most people get way too far into debt for their own good. Cutting debt out of their lives is a good thing (whether the advice is coming from a millionaire guru or not).

Not using credit can be difficult, but I&#039;m not sure what you mean by it being harmful or dangerous. Being deeply in debt has ruined many people&#039;s financial lives ... while being out of debt hasn&#039;t been nearly as bad for most people. Maybe you could explain a bit more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Greg &#8230; while I understand your objections to Ramsey&#8217;s personal contradictions, I think if you consider the ideas themselves without considering the person, some of them have merit. Personally, I think what he preaches, even if I don&#8217;t agree with his style, is good advice for most people. It wouldn&#8217;t work for everybody, but for a lot of people out there, what he&#8217;s saying is exactly what they need to hear. Most people get way too far into debt for their own good. Cutting debt out of their lives is a good thing (whether the advice is coming from a millionaire guru or not).</p>
<p>Not using credit can be difficult, but I&#8217;m not sure what you mean by it being harmful or dangerous. Being deeply in debt has ruined many people&#8217;s financial lives &#8230; while being out of debt hasn&#8217;t been nearly as bad for most people. Maybe you could explain a bit more.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 09:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops, meant &quot;cash-only&quot; or credit-free..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops, meant &#8220;cash-only&#8221; or credit-free..</p>
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