Comments on: The Showdown: Simple*ology vs. GTD http://zenhabits.net/2007/05/the-showdown-simpleology-vs-gtd/ Simple Productivity Sun, 07 Mar 2010 05:06:07 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Colleen http://zenhabits.net/2007/05/the-showdown-simpleology-vs-gtd/#comment-74574 Colleen Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:13:44 +0000 http://zenhabits.net/2007/05/the-showdown-simpleology-vs-gtd/#comment-74574 I liked your comparison. I myself use simple-ology and in my experience feel most people do need to figure out those longer term goals and ultimate life and this is where Simple-ology shines. Without setting goals and understanding how to begin to reach them most people flounder, fail and give up. Although Simple-ology is presenting some age old ideas most people never got them in the first place and this system offers the easiest and most practicle way of achieving focus that I have seen. I liked your comparison. I myself use simple-ology and in my experience feel most people do need to figure out those longer term goals and ultimate life and this is where Simple-ology shines. Without setting goals and understanding how to begin to reach them most people flounder, fail and give up.
Although Simple-ology is presenting some age old ideas most people never got them in the first place and this system offers the easiest and most practicle way of achieving focus that I have seen.

]]> By: Andrew Murray http://zenhabits.net/2007/05/the-showdown-simpleology-vs-gtd/#comment-55291 Andrew Murray Fri, 02 Jan 2009 01:37:16 +0000 http://zenhabits.net/2007/05/the-showdown-simpleology-vs-gtd/#comment-55291 GTD's big weakness - and it took at lot of time for me to really get it - is the lack of overall vision and movement towards your project. It's easy to get caught up in the minutia. I also threw away all of folders and replaced them with those non-hanging files David Allen recommended. Big mistake. GTD really thrives in creating the idea of contexts. Which is increasingly important in our wired-splintered world. <a href="http://www.grabthisfast.com/simpleology" rel="nofollow">Simpleology</a> goes way beyond just a system for getting things done. 102 is about Money, and 103 is about Energy. There's a lot to learn, but it's very habit-driven and really well presented (in terms of videos etc.) What I found hard in both systems is those weekly tasks like updating a blog, working out, eating more fruits and veg - that gets lost in both systems. I did a post on <a href="http://www.andrewmurray.ca/goal-setting-why-it-fails/" rel="nofollow">my blog</a>about that "missing" aspect of goals, and a JoesGoals, a free tool I use to track that stuff. GTD’s big weakness – and it took at lot of time for me to really get it – is the lack of overall vision and movement towards your project.

It’s easy to get caught up in the minutia.

I also threw away all of folders and replaced them with those non-hanging files David Allen recommended. Big mistake.

GTD really thrives in creating the idea of contexts. Which is increasingly important in our wired-splintered world.

Simpleology goes way beyond just a system for getting things done. 102 is about Money, and 103 is about Energy. There’s a lot to learn, but it’s very habit-driven and really well presented (in terms of videos etc.)

What I found hard in both systems is those weekly tasks like updating a blog, working out, eating more fruits and veg – that gets lost in both systems.

I did a post on my blogabout that “missing” aspect of goals, and a JoesGoals, a free tool I use to track that stuff.

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]]> By: XORsted » Blog Archive » Three reasons why routines are not straitjackets http://zenhabits.net/2007/05/the-showdown-simpleology-vs-gtd/#comment-10459 XORsted » Blog Archive » Three reasons why routines are not straitjackets Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:21:32 +0000 http://zenhabits.net/2007/05/the-showdown-simpleology-vs-gtd/#comment-10459 [...] post is in response to a comment I saw on a ZenHabits article months ago and which has been digging at me every since: “My only criticism of ZTD is your [...] [...] post is in response to a comment I saw on a ZenHabits article months ago and which has been digging at me every since: “My only criticism of ZTD is your [...]

]]> By: My Reasons for Using GTD - from Creating a Better Life http://zenhabits.net/2007/05/the-showdown-simpleology-vs-gtd/#comment-5864 My Reasons for Using GTD - from Creating a Better Life Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:13:45 +0000 http://zenhabits.net/2007/05/the-showdown-simpleology-vs-gtd/#comment-5864 [...] an excellent comparison of Simpleology and GTD, be sure to read The Showdown: Simple*ology vs. GTD, on Zen [...] [...] an excellent comparison of Simpleology and GTD, be sure to read The Showdown: Simple*ology vs. GTD, on Zen [...]

]]> By: Simpleology & GTD: My own thoughts « Be Like Water http://zenhabits.net/2007/05/the-showdown-simpleology-vs-gtd/#comment-4140 Simpleology & GTD: My own thoughts « Be Like Water Fri, 25 May 2007 11:43:44 +0000 http://zenhabits.net/2007/05/the-showdown-simpleology-vs-gtd/#comment-4140 [...] & GTD: My own thoughts Earlier this week, Leo at Zen Habits wrote a very interesting piece, suggested by a reader, on comparing Mark Joyner’s Simple*ology and David Allen’s GTD [...] [...] & GTD: My own thoughts Earlier this week, Leo at Zen Habits wrote a very interesting piece, suggested by a reader, on comparing Mark Joyner’s Simple*ology and David Allen’s GTD [...]

]]> By: David Hollingworth http://zenhabits.net/2007/05/the-showdown-simpleology-vs-gtd/#comment-4006 David Hollingworth Wed, 23 May 2007 14:31:50 +0000 http://zenhabits.net/2007/05/the-showdown-simpleology-vs-gtd/#comment-4006 To use the vernacular, "Totally awesome posting dude". I too agree that GTD doesn't lend itself well to the attainment of longer term goals. In fact I'm sure I recall a passage from the GTD book where David Allen says that there's resources elsewhere for more information on goal setting. I also subscribe to some of <a href="http://www.markforster.net" rel="nofollow">Mark Forsters</a> Do It Tomorrow ideas; but these are even more task focussed than GTD. So it looks like there's a real opportunity for something that brings the two areas together in a seamless whole. To use the vernacular, “Totally awesome posting dude”.

I too agree that GTD doesn’t lend itself well to the attainment of longer term goals. In fact I’m sure I recall a passage from the GTD book where David Allen says that there’s resources elsewhere for more information on goal setting.

I also subscribe to some of Mark Forsters Do It Tomorrow ideas; but these are even more task focussed than GTD.

So it looks like there’s a real opportunity for something that brings the two areas together in a seamless whole.

]]> By: Erik Mallinson http://zenhabits.net/2007/05/the-showdown-simpleology-vs-gtd/#comment-4004 Erik Mallinson Wed, 23 May 2007 13:50:11 +0000 http://zenhabits.net/2007/05/the-showdown-simpleology-vs-gtd/#comment-4004 Leo, Having read GTD I would have agreed about that it lacks emphasis on 'higher altitude' planning - that is, until I went to Getting Things Done: The Roadmap. I would approximate that half of the time spent was on higher altitude stuff. It totally changed the way I saw GTD and explained a lot for me. Doing the higher altitude planning starts to expose subtle projects and tasks and it's doing this that aligns your next actions and goals. I think the tragedy here is that the emphasis in the book is unintended. Then again, the book is really just a primer for what he sells - his seminars. Nice review! Leo,
Having read GTD I would have agreed about that it lacks emphasis on ‘higher altitude’ planning – that is, until I went to Getting Things Done: The Roadmap. I would approximate that half of the time spent was on higher altitude stuff. It totally changed the way I saw GTD and explained a lot for me. Doing the higher altitude planning starts to expose subtle projects and tasks and it’s doing this that aligns your next actions and goals.

I think the tragedy here is that the emphasis in the book is unintended. Then again, the book is really just a primer for what he sells – his seminars.

Nice review!

]]> By: links for 2007-05-23 http://zenhabits.net/2007/05/the-showdown-simpleology-vs-gtd/#comment-3988 links for 2007-05-23 Wed, 23 May 2007 07:20:26 +0000 http://zenhabits.net/2007/05/the-showdown-simpleology-vs-gtd/#comment-3988 [...] The Showdown: Simple*ology vs. GTD | zen habits Ultimate smack-down between Simple*ology and GTD. (tags: productivity simplicity gtd) [...] [...] The Showdown: Simple*ology vs. GTD | zen habits Ultimate smack-down between Simple*ology and GTD. (tags: productivity simplicity gtd) [...]

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