Comments on: 6 Practical and Powerful Ways to Overcome Depression http://zenhabits.net/2007/08/6-practical-and-powerful-ways-to-overcome-depression/ Simple Productivity Fri, 16 Oct 2009 00:14:22 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Sarah Rose http://zenhabits.net/2007/08/6-practical-and-powerful-ways-to-overcome-depression/#comment-77127 Sarah Rose Wed, 01 Jul 2009 08:18:37 +0000 http://zenhabits.net/2007/08/6-practical-and-powerful-ways-to-overcome-depression/#comment-77127 What makes sense to me, is that like personalities and fingerprints, everyone's depression will be different (causes, severity, chemicals before feelings or the other way around, etc.) and in turn, everyone's path to feeling better will be different. We can never know another's pain, and therefore we can never say what will work for them. I think that the spirit of the argument on both sides merges in the theme that everyone needs to be their our own advocate and not simply just listen to what they are told or rely on only one method of treatment. It may take a lot of time, but there is a specific formula and balance for each individual. The key is to diversify, experiment, and remain open minded. What makes sense to me, is that like personalities and fingerprints, everyone’s depression will be different (causes, severity, chemicals before feelings or the other way around, etc.) and in turn, everyone’s path to feeling better will be different. We can never know another’s pain, and therefore we can never say what will work for them. I think that the spirit of the argument on both sides merges in the theme that everyone needs to be their our own advocate and not simply just listen to what they are told or rely on only one method of treatment. It may take a lot of time, but there is a specific formula and balance for each individual. The key is to diversify, experiment, and remain open minded.

]]> By: Masha http://zenhabits.net/2007/08/6-practical-and-powerful-ways-to-overcome-depression/#comment-76840 Masha Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:51:56 +0000 http://zenhabits.net/2007/08/6-practical-and-powerful-ways-to-overcome-depression/#comment-76840 There seems to be a fine line between sadness and depression which can confuse us. First of all, I find it unfortunate that the science of the human mind and heart is trying so hard to be a hard science and to treat the human soul as if it were a machine. Yet, depression really is something different from sadness: it is when you want to get up and do something but can't. For example, you imagine how nice it would be to go to the beach or to go for a run or to call somebody and dress up and leave the house for a while, but you just can't get yourself to do it. This is the kind of depression I have known in the past. With regards to cause I don't think it's necessarily genetic. It seems to me the hormones and chemicals follow our feelings and not the other way around. We are each different and life offers all kinds of good and bad experiences. Our reactions vary. And over time, I think, things just pile up and the small sadnesses, not dealt with properly, overload us. I think this site gives good advice. Getting out, interacting, doing sports, but if you can't get yourself to do these things or if doing them just doesn't help enough and you are still feeling unnecessary pain for what may seem to be no reason at all, you should see someone. I don't recommend pills unless you are really in bad shape and are scared. I have been doing psychoanlysis for over five years now and I don't know, it hasn't turned me into a happy person or anything of the sort, but overall, I am able to do much more and to feel better most of the time. I don't think there's an easy answer. If you've come to this point, it's gonna be a struggle to work yourself into a better condition. Just taking pills alone won't do it either. If you're going to take pills, make sure you also get very good help so that slowly you can reduce the dosage and free yourself from having to rely on them. This is only my own personal view. There seems to be a fine line between sadness and depression which can confuse us. First of all, I find it unfortunate that the science of the human mind and heart is trying so hard to be a hard science and to treat the human soul as if it were a machine. Yet, depression really is something different from sadness: it is when you want to get up and do something but can’t. For example, you imagine how nice it would be to go to the beach or to go for a run or to call somebody and dress up and leave the house for a while, but you just can’t get yourself to do it. This is the kind of depression I have known in the past. With regards to cause I don’t think it’s necessarily genetic. It seems to me the hormones and chemicals follow our feelings and not the other way around. We are each different and life offers all kinds of good and bad experiences. Our reactions vary. And over time, I think, things just pile up and the small sadnesses, not dealt with properly, overload us. I think this site gives good advice. Getting out, interacting, doing sports, but if you can’t get yourself to do these things or if doing them just doesn’t help enough and you are still feeling unnecessary pain for what may seem to be no reason at all, you should see someone. I don’t recommend pills unless you are really in bad shape and are scared. I have been doing psychoanlysis for over five years now and I don’t know, it hasn’t turned me into a happy person or anything of the sort, but overall, I am able to do much more and to feel better most of the time. I don’t think there’s an easy answer. If you’ve come to this point, it’s gonna be a struggle to work yourself into a better condition. Just taking pills alone won’t do it either. If you’re going to take pills, make sure you also get very good help so that slowly you can reduce the dosage and free yourself from having to rely on them. This is only my own personal view.

]]> By: Ana Paula http://zenhabits.net/2007/08/6-practical-and-powerful-ways-to-overcome-depression/#comment-73598 Ana Paula Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:00:36 +0000 http://zenhabits.net/2007/08/6-practical-and-powerful-ways-to-overcome-depression/#comment-73598 Marina, Have you or anyone you know suffer from depression, Panic Disorder, Panic Attacks, OCD, Bi Polar disease and the least goes on and on have you? Do you know anyone? I can't possibly believe you or someone you know suffered from any of the above mentioned and you would say is not a disease, altough I respect your opinion I disagree with your statement that depression is not a disease. Marina,

Have you or anyone you know suffer from depression, Panic Disorder, Panic Attacks, OCD, Bi Polar disease and the least goes on and on have you? Do you know anyone? I can’t possibly believe you or someone you know suffered from any of the above mentioned and you would say is not a disease, altough I respect your opinion I disagree with your statement that depression is not a disease.

]]> By: Ana Paula http://zenhabits.net/2007/08/6-practical-and-powerful-ways-to-overcome-depression/#comment-73597 Ana Paula Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:52:50 +0000 http://zenhabits.net/2007/08/6-practical-and-powerful-ways-to-overcome-depression/#comment-73597 Dear Curious, I know all my neighbors, I do volunteer in my children school and I'm very sociable, depression is a disease as real as diabetes, now when you are depressed what do people tend to do? leave you out in the cold because they don't understand someone who is depressed and by all means they do not want to put up with the side effects of it (negativity, drama, moodiness, etc) for one I have learned who my true friends are out of 5 that I tough't I had I'm left with 1, just 1 who has been there at all times, I think is a combination of medication, theraphy and self help, is hard to find the willpower but at the end if we do not do it for ourselves no one else will, I hate the gym but I will drag myself to it one way or the other I have to win this battle :) Dear Curious,

I know all my neighbors, I do volunteer in my children school and I’m very sociable, depression is a disease as real as diabetes, now when you are depressed what do people tend to do? leave you out in the cold because they don’t understand someone who is depressed and by all means they do not want to put up with the side effects of it (negativity, drama, moodiness, etc) for one I have learned who my true friends are out of 5 that I tough’t I had I’m left with 1, just 1 who has been there at all times, I think is a combination of medication, theraphy and self help, is hard to find the willpower but at the end if we do not do it for ourselves no one else will, I hate the gym but I will drag myself to it one way or the other I have to win this battle :)

]]> By: Ana Paula http://zenhabits.net/2007/08/6-practical-and-powerful-ways-to-overcome-depression/#comment-73596 Ana Paula Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:46:56 +0000 http://zenhabits.net/2007/08/6-practical-and-powerful-ways-to-overcome-depression/#comment-73596 How do one get's up and starts to exercize? I have been dealing with Panic Dissorder and attacks since 2003, now I'm dealing with depression since I lost my father and I have no energy at all, so how do you just snap and exercize? it makes sense all that is said and written but when you are so blue how do you do it? I do take medication and honestly it has loss it's efficacy at the lowest dose and I'm increasing it, I have lost alot due to depression just wish it was easy to just get up and do it, I for one hate exercising but I see as I read and read that it all points into that directon and maybe that can be the answer.I'm 32divorced mom and dad of 3 kids. How do one get’s up and starts to exercize? I have been dealing with Panic Dissorder and attacks since 2003, now I’m dealing with depression since I lost my father and I have no energy at all, so how do you just snap and exercize? it makes sense all that is said and written but when you are so blue how do you do it? I do take medication and honestly it has loss it’s efficacy at the lowest dose and I’m increasing it, I have lost alot due to depression just wish it was easy to just get up and do it, I for one hate exercising but I see as I read and read that it all points into that directon and maybe that can be the answer.I’m 32divorced mom and dad of 3 kids.

]]> By: Claude http://zenhabits.net/2007/08/6-practical-and-powerful-ways-to-overcome-depression/#comment-73027 Claude Fri, 05 Jun 2009 11:09:36 +0000 http://zenhabits.net/2007/08/6-practical-and-powerful-ways-to-overcome-depression/#comment-73027 If clinical depression is all about the hard science of chemical imbalance. How is it that Cognitive Behavioural Therapy (CBT) is being hailed by the main stream psychiatric community as an extremely effective treatment for severe depression. This may or may not be carried out alongside a suitable drug regimen. In my experience these six steps at the very worst will be a strong support to any treatment and at best can effect a complete and drug free cure. Either way they are all very worthwhile. Clinical depression is about chemical imbalance brought about by external forces and these imbalances can be reversed by the application of an appropriate set of alternative forces. These 6 steps and others like CBT are the answer. Get to it and get well. If clinical depression is all about the hard science of chemical imbalance. How is it that Cognitive Behavioural Therapy (CBT) is being hailed by the main stream psychiatric community as an extremely effective treatment for severe depression. This may or may not be carried out alongside a suitable drug regimen. In my experience these six steps at the very worst will be a strong support to any treatment and at best can effect a complete and drug free cure. Either way they are all very worthwhile. Clinical depression is about chemical imbalance brought about by external forces and these imbalances can be reversed by the application of an appropriate set of alternative forces. These 6 steps and others like CBT are the answer. Get to it and get well.

]]> By: No Depression http://zenhabits.net/2007/08/6-practical-and-powerful-ways-to-overcome-depression/#comment-70644 No Depression Mon, 18 May 2009 12:07:23 +0000 http://zenhabits.net/2007/08/6-practical-and-powerful-ways-to-overcome-depression/#comment-70644 6 Ways to Overcome Depression are excellent tips. Especially I like 30 minutes in 3 times a week exercises and having friends. Being together with friends makes the person emotion free or with positive emotions. Thanks for the tips. 6 Ways to Overcome Depression are excellent tips.
Especially I like 30 minutes in 3 times a week exercises
and having friends. Being together with friends makes
the person emotion free or with positive emotions.
Thanks for the tips.

]]> By: curious http://zenhabits.net/2007/08/6-practical-and-powerful-ways-to-overcome-depression/#comment-69226 curious Wed, 06 May 2009 13:56:47 +0000 http://zenhabits.net/2007/08/6-practical-and-powerful-ways-to-overcome-depression/#comment-69226 hi, i have a question for the ppl who have had depression: 1. do you do volunteer work? 2. do you know your neighbours? 3. do you partake in a social activity (for eg. play a group sport, member of a religious group, member of social change group, adult education etc ... ) outside of work? i am just curious, i am not trying to make any implicit assumptions with the questions above ... as i think they relate to me too ... i am recently married to a wonderful partner, in a new job (recent promotion), move countries and now living in an exciting international beaufiful european city (all my friends are jealous etc), we are in the process of buying an apartment ... yet i feel so depressed ... and i am starting to think it may be because outside of my new partner i have do not have a social network here and i don't do any of the above ... ? my depression does not make sense to me given that on an objective, external level i "have it all" ... i am confused. hi,
i have a question for the ppl who have had depression:
1. do you do volunteer work?
2. do you know your neighbours?
3. do you partake in a social activity (for eg. play a group sport, member of a religious group, member of social change group, adult education etc … ) outside of work?
i am just curious, i am not trying to make any implicit assumptions with the questions above … as i think they relate to me too … i am recently married to a wonderful partner, in a new job (recent promotion), move countries and now living in an exciting international beaufiful european city (all my friends are jealous etc), we are in the process of buying an apartment … yet i feel so depressed … and i am starting to think it may be because outside of my new partner i have do not have a social network here and i don’t do any of the above … ? my depression does not make sense to me given that on an objective, external level i “have it all” … i am confused.

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