Great Ebook: Learn More, Study Less (With a Special Offer)

Michael Says:

June 3rd, 2008, 21:19 pm

Hello Leo,

The ebook buy links appear to be broken.

Thanks,
Michael

Benjamin M. Strozykowski Says:

June 3rd, 2008, 21:32 pm

I was just about ready to get my debit card out, but the links are broken. I’ll check back tomorrow.

Corey - Simple Marriage Project Says:

June 3rd, 2008, 21:32 pm

Same on my end, link is not working.

Adam Sicinski - Study Matrix Art Says:

June 3rd, 2008, 21:36 pm

Hi Leo,

If your readers are interested I have 3 free Mind Mapping Resources and articles about accelerated learning for students on my blog. The first mind map delves into helping us improve our memory. The second mind map breaks down the 7 intelligences of accelerated learning, and the third mind map presents strategies for multi-sensory learning.

All mind maps are available as free desktop wallpaper downloads from the blog. I think they would compliment what Scott Young is offering within his ebook and provide students with a greater array of resources and study tools that will help them at school.

Karim Baz Says:

June 3rd, 2008, 21:40 pm

Hey, I was definitely interested in buying e-book. I first tried to access the links through my RSS and thought that was might be the problem.

Once I came here, however, I noticed that I am not the only person with this problem. Hope you get a chance to get this link working soon.

AJ Says:

June 3rd, 2008, 22:09 pm

How long is this discount available for?

Zenplease Says:

June 3rd, 2008, 22:21 pm

Link is still down for me too.

I just updated my blog dealing with the benefits of green tea, check it out: http://zenplease.com/green-tea-what-you-did-not-know/

Jeff@MySuperChargedLife Says:

June 3rd, 2008, 22:35 pm

Scott is a great author. I really enjoy reading his blog and his posts on sites like Pick The Brain. This sounds like a great deal!

Laurie Says:

June 3rd, 2008, 23:19 pm

Being a teacher I realize the importanceof knowing that people learn in different ways. It’s great that he has tapped into a way to help kids at home. Teachers used this strategy often in their classes as they differentialte for their kiddos. Making connections with the concept mapping is a wonderful way for kids to understand the content and not just memorize facts. If kids understand the connections between the pieces, they’ll “own” what they’ve learned.

Jeff Says:

June 4th, 2008, 0:32 am

The preview was interesting… might want to purchase it. Scott is a good author.

Miss Gisele B. | myBeautyMatch.com Says:

June 4th, 2008, 0:39 am

What a great find Leo.

I’m all for learning more while stydying less.

Thanks so much for featuring this ebook!!!

Miss Gisele B.

Leo Says:

June 4th, 2008, 1:10 am

Hi guys … my apologies!

I’ve fixed the buy now link — it should work now.

As for the special offer, it expires in one month.

Thanks everyone!

A-Jay Says:

June 4th, 2008, 1:28 am

Hate to be a pest, but they’re still broken for me. Both links redirect me to “http://zenhabits.net/wp-admin/%3Ca%20href=”. No worries; I’m sure it’ll be fixed soon. =)

Sara Says:

June 4th, 2008, 1:29 am

Hey Leo, the link still doesn’t seem to work, but thanks for the recommendation!

Subhash Says:

June 4th, 2008, 1:41 am

Link (still) not working!

Gobr B. Black Says:

June 4th, 2008, 2:18 am

Links for Buy not working, and please, the store sends Worldwide?

Tim Says:

June 4th, 2008, 2:30 am

The link doesn’t seem to be working

Rasmus Says:

June 4th, 2008, 3:06 am

Link is still not working

ewonk Says:

June 4th, 2008, 3:11 am

Good information. Judging from the outline, this book looks like a pretty compilation of one of the old mega memory type books paired with some GTD stuff for learning. That stuff fills my thoughts constantly and I’ve read lots of books on all those topics. Although this might be repeat material, I feel the need to add this book to the collection just incase he covers an old topic with a better spin or unique perspective that I haven’t come across.

Furthermore, with the discount it’s still 20 dollars!?!?!?! I’m not sure what kind of magic is in this book but I’m curious; I don’t recall ever seeing a 40 dollar self help book on the shelf.

ps: Link still does not work.

Leo Says:

June 4th, 2008, 3:16 am

Argh! WordPress seems to be changing my links for some reason! Lemme try again.

Leo Says:

June 4th, 2008, 3:21 am

OK, fixed now! Sorry everyone, made a dumb mistake in WP. The links should work now.

Glen Allsopp Says:

June 4th, 2008, 3:42 am

Sounds like a great offer, I’m sure everybody could do with techniques to learn more in a shorter space of time.

Cheers Leo

Alexandros Says:

June 4th, 2008, 3:54 am

I always find those self-improvement books too useless.

1) They say things that you already know; or say things that you already know but name them in a catchy manner.

2) You can probably find all of these on the internet.

3) The only thing that self-impovement books improve are the authors’ pockets.

4) If you want to learn: sit down and study. Anything else is a funny waste of time.

*5) Leo, you don’t have to say “Well, it looks like an advertisement”. It wouldn’t be bad if it was one; It’s your blog - advertise anything.

Darlene Says:

June 4th, 2008, 4:13 am

Hi Leo,

Thanks for the post! I impulsively bought the e-book after reading the title and the first few paragraphs… Well, um, to be honest, after just glancing briefly through your post :) … After having started reading through it, I realized it’s exactly what I’ve been looking for! I’m a Canadian expat living in France and just last night was wondering how I was going to cram in some daily language study to fit with my regular daily workload as well as on-the-side and personal projects. The fact that the author is from Canada also provides more inspiration.

I usually don’t make impulsive purchases like this, so I would have to say that this is a display of my admiration of your blog and trust of your judgement. I’ve been reading your blog now for over a year. Keep up the great work!

Darlene

Mischa Says:

June 4th, 2008, 4:15 am

I am wondering if this book is useful when you are learning a new language. After reading the preview I don’t see how to apply holistic learning to e.g. vocabulary memorization. Any ideas?

Charles Says:

June 4th, 2008, 4:36 am

I’ve started reading it. It’s very good material so far. I happen to have problems grasping the information when I read, and this books looks promising for me! I’d like ZH to suggest at least a good book every now and then, books related to self-development. I have no problem paying for books, the author took a lot of time and effort gathering and analysing information, and writing the book. He needs to pay his bills too. Congratulations on this book, I hope our support stimulates the continual effort to write good and helpful books. Thanks ;)

anonymous Says:

June 4th, 2008, 9:24 am

remember when your posts used to be good and helpful? it’s been going downhill for months now, leo. i’m sorely disappointed. :(

A. Nonymous Says:

June 4th, 2008, 9:26 am

remember when your posts used to be good? i’m sorely disappointed with this blog now, leo. i used to look forward to reading your posts, but no longer.

Peter Says:

June 4th, 2008, 10:58 am

Me too…. Your Main Story/Post is actually just an advert for something you’re selling. Thats very Zen. You’re doing it all wrong; You are meant to collect and post nuggets of information that make visitors come back frequently and, as your subscribers grow, so does your ad revenue. But you are just posting one thing a week recently, and now you are starting to post adverts for stuff you’re selling, it is a downward spiral.

The Geek Stuff Says:

June 4th, 2008, 11:35 am

The title of the e-book sounds very interesting. I will check it out.

Thanks,
Ramesh

The Financial Philosopher Says:

June 4th, 2008, 12:29 pm

This book may be quite useful but the title looks to appeal to the human (and flawed) attraction to shortcuts. Any true pursuit to “learn more” and “study less” will begin with self-awareness, which will have the individual seeking their own path, not the path of another individual or entity.

Once again, this book may provide a path to self-awareness but if it does not, it’s value will be limited.

To learn more effectively, I suggest “learning how you learn,” as a previous commenter and teacher implied, to discover your “learning style.”

The online Learning Style Survey is free and I have applied it with great success in my post graduate studies.

Here’s the link: http://adulted.about.com/cs/learningstyles/a/lrng_style.htm

The Zen path is your own path…

“No one saves us but ourselves. No one can and no one may. We ourselves must walk the path.” ~ Buddha

Cheers to all…

Kent (The Financial Philosopher)

Marc and Angel Hack Life Says:

June 4th, 2008, 13:17 pm

Scott is a fantastic writer! I’m certainly going to check it out.

mike Says:

June 4th, 2008, 13:20 pm

anon/peter -

I have to say when I saw the post I kind of sighed to myself as well. The last thing I think I (and probably a lot of readers) want to see is this site becoming a platform for cross-product pollination.

After giving it some thought though, I’m not really bothered by it at all. The site is going to do this from time to time. It is just happening now at a bad time when the site owner also has a few pursuits being juggled at once. I’ve got every bit of confidence that Leo is making these decisions with consciousness and forethought into how it will affect his brand and his message.

And like all advertisements, eventually something is going to be pitched to you that you’re actually interested in. It doesn’t take much effort to simply ignore the ones you aren’t interested in.

Chris Austria Says:

June 4th, 2008, 13:49 pm

Hey Leo,

I’m sensing a Tiger Woods Michael Jordan kinda thing here…I actually don’t mind people that I admire and trust making ad pitches because it helps me make wise decisions on my purchases.

I curios to see how this new ventures of yours pan out because since I’ve started blogging, I’ve pretty much followed my lead.

The Financial Philosopher Says:

June 4th, 2008, 14:05 pm

The book may be quite useful but the title looks to be carefully selected to appeal the human (flawed) attraction to shortcuts.

Everyone has a different learning style and “short-cuts” are certainly not the prudent pursuit. Rather than following someone else’s path, I have found personal success by “learning how I learn” via the free, internet-based “Learning Style Survey.”

Here’s the link: http://www.metamath.com/lsweb/dvclearn.htm

The only path to “self-improvement” is via the path of self-awareness.

“No one saves us but ourselves. No one can and no one may. We ourselves must walk the path.” ~ Buddha

Liz Webb Says:

June 4th, 2008, 14:11 pm

Your website is excellent; very good content. Thank you.

Your use of the term “you guys” repeatedly makes me cringe. It is immature and inaccurate language.

Hal Swain Says:

June 4th, 2008, 14:19 pm

Well, well–what have we here, you guys?

A Grammar Nazi! Liz Webb, huh? Isn’t that special?

First time one has appeared on ZH, so far as I know.

What do you guys think–aren’t Word Nazis a bore?

Rohit Says:

June 4th, 2008, 16:03 pm

disappointed see this Ad. It’s not Zen….

A. Nonymous Says:

June 4th, 2008, 16:32 pm

Mike–

I do agree with you. It is easy to ignore the ads that you don’t necessarily want to see. And it’s not even that I don’t think this book is a valid investment …. it’s more about what you said about how it is unfortunate that these ads are coming at a time that there has been a lack of substantial posts, due to other commitments taken on. I’ve been disappointed with the content for months now, and the ad was just the icing on the cake. It’s a bummer because I used to wake up every morning, looking forward to reading the zenhabits post of the day.

Laro Says:

June 4th, 2008, 17:55 pm

I think that 40$ for an ebook is a robbery. Even 20$ is too much for me. I was interested in this book, but the price threw me away. 20$ for a hard copy would be plausible.

Jonathan B. Says:

June 4th, 2008, 20:05 pm

Hmm, could be a good. I’ll at least give the preview a read. I have no problem keeping up with my studies but this could be helpful.

Peter Says:

June 4th, 2008, 20:20 pm

A. Nonymous-
My sentiments exactly. I have been getting the feeling that this blog is becoming more of a stepping stone to Leo’s main objective of being a published writer. Sure, he can do what he wants, but the readership will be left with an empty feeling and a good blog will fade away which is a real pity. Perhaps Leo should start to accept “guest submissions” for posts from users (which he can filter, naturally) to keep the content steady and regular, and then as you said, the odd advert wouldn’t be so repugnant

Karl Staib - Your Work Happiness Matters Says:

June 4th, 2008, 21:37 pm

Sounds like a great tool. I’ll give it a try and check back with all of you.

Annie Says:

June 4th, 2008, 21:46 pm

Woah, woah, why all this bashing? IMHO, Leo isn’t trying to use us as a “stepping stone” or something. Certainly, he is developing his skill as a writer, but he has a relationship with all of his readers. And while becoming published is great, it is not as free as having the power to choose your own projects and deadlines. He’s trying to live his life and share those things with us that he feels have helped him. Granted, I think $20 is a lot for an ebook (for a hard copy, I’d pay that much). But he kindly included both a preview AND a discount, and I would like to thank him for both of those things. He’s not our enemy here, just someone with a genuine interest in improving our lives.

And the topic in the book is related to zen. It’s higher consciousness, greater awareness. That is most definitely zen.

Now, you pointlessly bashing Leo? Not zen. You have set expectations for Leo, and when he doesn’t meet them, you people get disappointed. Expectations are set ups for disappointment. And it’s connected to your ego - you expect someone to act a certain way, and when they don’t, you have a fit, as if they were not an entirely different person with feelings and opinions of their own. Leo doesn’t belong to anyone but himself! I don’t mean this as a “live-and-let-live” kind of preaching, but rather, I say that we should be a little more comfortable with things as they are instead of how we believe they “ought to be.”

I am done ranting, that is my 2 cents on that.

Leo - I actually like the preview! I might buy it at a later date if there is a hard copy because I am in high school and soon to be in college, and so this will definitely enhance my learning. Thank you for sharing something new and exciting in every post :)

Hanny Says:

June 4th, 2008, 22:25 pm

Is there anything more to Amram Jochabed or is that it?

Is it some strange, nu-wave heckling I don’t know about?

marty Says:

June 5th, 2008, 2:56 am

I skim the preview of the book quickly and through that it does seem to be a good practical book. I think that there is nothing wrong to put an entry in it, but definitely not when I was expecting an entry with higher quality which you usually deliver Leo.

I can understand most of the disappointments expressed here because instead of putting your time and effort in producing an entry about you and zen, you post up an entry entirely about the book. If you actually post up an entry about your application of what you have read from the ebook, it will be a lot better. And I am sure you won’t see that many complaints here.

dan Says:

June 5th, 2008, 3:28 am

To all of the people complaining about the ad or the lack of fresh content:

Have you really gone through all of the old posts and become an expert in life that you need advice on new subjects? Doubt it. There is a ton of good advice on this blog. Go back a little and read something that you may have forgotten! Too many people with a “What have you done for me lately?” attitude.

Hanny Says:

June 5th, 2008, 3:51 am

Thanks Amram. You’re one of the true Three Amigos but with poetic ability.

Ryan McLean Says:

June 5th, 2008, 5:03 am

Zen Habits is going down the drain a little. This is waste of a post and just seems like a way for leo to make money from me…not to give me anything
I hope to see more posts of value in the future, and hopefully on a regular basis

aurora Says:

June 5th, 2008, 5:52 am

Anyone thinking of buying this book please also know: you can go to your schools’ learning center to get a tutor for free. Well not free exactly. You have already paid for it in the cost of your tuition! All the more reason to utilize the service. Inquire, and even if you’re in a class that doesn’t have tutors as a rule, the center may recruit one. I know because the one at my school asked me to tutor a 300 level psych nursing class to help out just one person. Tutoring works, with the added benefit of accountability that you don’t have reading a book alone.

99ppp Says:

June 5th, 2008, 5:53 am

“Now, I know that so far this post has sounded like an advertisement…”

That’s because it is an advertisement, and there’s nothing wrong with that, but it’s a bit disingenuous to suggest that it isn’t simply because the writer believes some product is a good one. Many celebrity endorsements are also in ads, even if the celeb sincerely believes it will benefit others.

20$ is pricey for an e-book, imo.

About the Zen Habits blog itself, I wouldn’t complain too much since the site has tons of good past posts to peruse.

Henry Says:

June 5th, 2008, 7:08 am

Dan, there are blogs like Lifehacker for example which have new posts 4 or 5 times a day. No one is so desperate that they have to read old posts again because the ONLY post this whole week happens to be an advert. AS for the price, 20 dollars is pushing it as there was zero costs in printing, packaging or distribution…; i guess the only people who would buy it are the ones who will read old posts again to pass the time till something new pops up.

Jennifer Says:

June 5th, 2008, 7:22 am

There are too many other sites with “tons of good past posts to peruse.” as well as 4 or more new posts every day. If leo wants to keep an active and growing readership, he has to think about that. I have 7 blogs that are in an “open together” tab on my browser because I check them a few times a day for new stuff… I took Zen Habits out of there because it is dull to load the page with the same thing all week…. Leo… PUT THE “HABIT” BACK IN “ZEN HABITS” PLEASE, or as Peter said, get a collaborator or guest writer for posts

zizi Says:

June 5th, 2008, 7:33 am

Ironic and sad that reading the volatile responses here are far more interesting than the actual article :)

ps 20 dollars to read about a guy telling you over and over how happy he is with his life and how great his life is, and how much this book will help you, but somehow he never gets to the point ? self help books are all the same; they are for the helpless.

Stephanie Says:

June 5th, 2008, 7:36 am

I’m so disappointed in this blog.

And agree that $20 is WAY too much to ask for for an e-book. And that’s supposed to be a discount? So the regular price is $40? You’ve got to be kidding! Nice try, Leo. I don’t believe that’s a discount at all.

Bruno Says:

June 5th, 2008, 8:27 am

This blog is more like to ZenHabit$$$™ now.
All posts reserved ©

b.ontask Says:

June 5th, 2008, 9:54 am

Leo, thanks for the book reference and kudos to Scott Young. I’m about half way through and enjoying it as much as Scott’s and your blogs.

I understand the “ew!” of receiving unexpected advertisements - we’ve all been surprised by commercials that initially looked like personal communications and perhaps that’s the source of all this angst, but OH BROTHER!, everybody - lighten up! Leo - maybe you can lead in your next recommendation with a warning - “Danger, purchasing opportunity ahead, proceed with caution!”

It is an interesting however, on a social level, to see how demanding (and fickle) an audience can become….let’s hope these same folks line up at the bookstore when Leo’s book arrives - although it sounds like some folks will wait till it hits their public library shelves.

Hey I love “free” and I’m grateful for all the “free” here. Thank you! I’m also enjoying the fruit of my $19.99 investment…..

namaste

Peter Says:

June 5th, 2008, 10:12 am

People bashed me when I mentioned two weeks ago that the very few posts here recently seem to be less about zen habits and more about leo’s personal achievement stories… and now, pure commerce! So Zen Habbits really does mean “Me, Me, Me”?
One very Zen piece of advice my Mother gave me which I live by is “People count the faults of those who make them wait”.. and a week here with the same overpriced book pitch is having that very effect…. where is Leo to respond? practicing for a marathon or something ?

Ps, Amram Jochabed. Maybe Leo has NO idea what your point is, like everyone else here…. Do you want to elaborate on what “ALL ONE” is? it might hold our attention to this fading blog a bit longer

Gasón Says:

June 5th, 2008, 10:16 am

It looks really interesting…
Unfortunately in Argentina 20 dollars are 63 pesos… can´t afford that.. everything is getting so expensive here =(

At least there are always free thing in the magical world of internet =)

Dave Says:

June 5th, 2008, 11:02 am

Hi Leo,

I must admit it would be nice to hear from you on a personal level i.e.What’s happening with you and your blogs, your book and whatever else you’re working on. Not a top twenty list. Not a guest post on better ways to scratch an itch on your ass. Not an advert for a new business venture - but just an insight into how your new lifestyle is working out for you (or not).

Cheers

Dave

Darlene Says:

June 5th, 2008, 11:24 am

This is in response to Mischa’s comment:

With languages (especially in speaking them), the most important thing is practice. For example, sentence structure in English compared to in French can be quite different (as I’ve found out in my clumsy daily efforts!). It would benefit from a different approach, which I hope to find in this handbook. Even when it comes to learning by rote, there are always patterns in languages. Heck, there are patterns if anything if I zoom out far enough. If I can just uncover and understand these patterns and find an appropriate analogy to these patterns, then the techniques in this book will help in remembering them more easily (I hope). In addition, I think these techniques will help me cope with the mountains of learning that I have to deal with at this point in time. But that’s another story.

Cheers,
Darlene

Jake Says:

June 5th, 2008, 11:39 am

I agree with what was said here by a commenter before - this blog has basically become a money-making machine for Leo. How much commission are you getting for sales of this ebook through this website Leo?

You have lost ALL credibility with me, you are NO different from a

Jake Says:

June 5th, 2008, 11:41 am

I agree with what was said here by a commenter before - this blog has basically become a money-making machine for you, Leo. How much commission are you getting for sales of this ebook through this website?

You have lost ALL credibility with me, you are NO different from a telemarketer - constantly selling one thing or other. If it is not asking for donations, you are selling ebooks (written by you) and then ebooks written by others for commission. I am SO done with this website.

Jennifer Says:

June 5th, 2008, 11:48 am

I agree 100% with the commenters who have called out Leo about his desperation to make $$$. Leo, this blog has become a sh$%hole, like Jake, this will also be my last visit to this blog. Stay well.

Rupert Says:

June 5th, 2008, 11:50 am

Dude, this ebook costs more than some of my textbooks - wouldn’t I be better off buying my textbooks than this ebook??

Rupert Says:

June 5th, 2008, 12:12 pm

Amram Jochabed - those are some really, really wise words. Thank you for your sentiments, my life was just enriched beyond belief.

Dave Says:

June 5th, 2008, 12:17 pm

I like to read Amrams posts in the style of Yoda.

Hehehe :-)

The Financial Philosopher Says:

June 5th, 2008, 12:19 pm

The comments here are an interesting observation in human behavior:

If we have truly learned the “Zen” way, then we would not be so eager to read someone else’s ideas on productivity, motivation and self-improvement rather than relying on our own…

If we have truly learned the “Zen” way, we would not pretend to think we know Leo’s thoughts and motives. We would receive his thoughts but not necessarily keep them or reject them…

If we have truly learned the “Zen” way, then we would seek to follow our own path and quietly search for our own truths rather than wait for someone else’s direction…

Finally, if we have truly leanred the “Zen” way, we will have found our own “way” and not tell others what the “Zen” way should be for them…

“Doubt everything. Find your own light.” ~ Buddha

“Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Seek what they sought.” ~ Basho

“Do not search for Truth. Just stop having opinions.” ~ Sengtsan

“The perfect man uses his mind as a mirror. It grasps nothing, it rejects nothing. It receives but does not keep.” ~ Chuang tzu

“True mastery can be gained by letting things go their own way. It can’t be gained by interfering.” ~ Lau-tzu

“You cannot tread the Path before you become the Path yourself.” ~ Zen saying

To Leo: Your absence in comments here is noteworthy and implies a calm mind and strong sense of self. I do not know you but I believe you may be one of the only individuals that is truly following your own Path. Do what you feel is right, follow your own path, and everything will be as it should…

Kent (aka The Financial Philosopher)

EG Says:

June 5th, 2008, 12:55 pm

I think Amram Jochabed is stealing from his bottle of Dr. Bronner’s soap.

I’ve been reading Leo’s training blog lately, which has a different focus, but I like it. Reading that I can see he’s busy, doing other things, etc. This is his own personal blog, and he can do whatever he likes.

That said, I too have been disappointed with the lack of article-style posts from Leo lately. We like your voice and your perspective! Bring it back!

John Blackburn Says:

June 5th, 2008, 13:59 pm

I see you scrubbed all of Amram Jochabed’s posts, Leo.

What’s up with that? He certainly said nothing nearly so insulting as some of these other posters, who have made it clear that they think Zen Habits is heading downhill and that you’ve sold out. Why pick on Amram? Even if he’s a nut, doesn’t a nut have a right to post here with the rest?

Not very Zen-like of you, Leo. Seems sort of arbitrary to me, and rather unfair. Why single him out?

You’re showing your true colors now, and there’s not much Zen-shade in them.

I’ve about had it with this blog too.

Jonathan B. Says:

June 5th, 2008, 14:28 pm

John Blackburn,

Amram’s posts were nonsense. It was virtually as worthless as spam. There’s nothing wrong with removing them.

If Leo were trying to be dishonest, he would remove all of the negative comments. But no, he’s being fair, and just removing the comments that have nothing to do with anything.

Jonathan B. Says:

June 5th, 2008, 14:33 pm

Anyway, Leo, I think these comments are good feedback for you to learn from. At the very least it tells you a lot about your readers.

For those who might want to learn more about the study techniques without buying the book, check out the author’s blog: http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2007/03/25/how-to-ace-your-finals-without-studying/

Jan Says:

June 5th, 2008, 16:04 pm

I used to read this blog of yours DAILY, Leo. You’ve contributed big-time to the habit changes I accomplished over the last months.

But then, what the fuck happened to this - once so great - blog?! Now I’m checking back every other day, just to be disappointed by advertising posts you want to sell e-books with, some stupid guest-post or your new venture? This used to be a blog focused on “value to the readers”, so you’ve stated several times.

Don’t get me wrong, I realize that it’s kind of tough for you now, having quit your day-job. But please, PLEASE don’t let this blog become a mere short living cash-cow. Don’t jeopardize the people’s support for you by neglecting them like this!

Jan (one of your readers from Germany)

Allistair Says:

June 5th, 2008, 16:20 pm

“Balls!”, she cried, and the fight was on.

Nikki Says:

June 5th, 2008, 16:30 pm

LOL @ Rupert - your comment just underscores the ridiculousness of this post.

And Leo, I agree with Jake - everything on this blog now has to do with money - either you’re requesting donations or selling stuff (yours AND other people’s).

The only thing zen-like about this blog is its title. Joining a number of readers who have said the same thing, l’m done with this website as well…

Jonathan B. Says:

June 5th, 2008, 16:42 pm

I’m curious why people don’t give Leo a chance to respond before leaving a blog that has been “so great to them in the past.”

Talk about drama. :P

Jimmy Says:

June 5th, 2008, 16:44 pm

Jonathan - b/c this blog has been heading downhill for a while now.

And to repeat the question another reader asked - Leo how much commission will you be getting if persons buy the ebook through the link on your website? Shouldn’t you disclose that?

Jonathan B. Says:

June 5th, 2008, 16:46 pm

I have noticed an increase in advertising, but ultimately this blog has still been great. In Leo’s 10 latest entries, only two of them are “advertisements.” I really liked his recent “Letter from a Dad” post.

Just seems silly to jump ship on someone who has written many great articles for us. I’m interested in his response.

Leo Says:

June 5th, 2008, 16:47 pm

Hi guys … I stay away from the comments for one day and I miss so much! :)

For those who wanted to hear a little about me personally, I injured my back right after I did this post and have been sidelined a bit, but I think I should be OK now. I’ve been a bit busy finishing up my book (it’s taking longer than I anticipated) and preparing for my wedding and honeymoon (two weeks from today!).

Regarding the comments about this site being about making money … I appreciate the feedback, as it helps me to remember what people really care about … but in my defense, I don’t think it’s completely fair.

First of all, the posts I’ve written that sell ebooks are very few compared to the number of other posts. Seriously, go back over the last few months and count them. I’ve had a couple in the last week, but other than that it’s almost nil. Most of my posts, by far, don’t mention anything for sale.

Second, as for asking for donations, I did that one time, and I have a link in my sidebar linking to that single post. It happened like 6 months ago, and I haven’t mentioned it since. However, I have had a number of donations from readers, and it has helped my finances, and I am very grateful for their generosity.

Third, I will admit that I do try to make money from this blog. It is one of my main sources of income (along with my ebooks and my print book). Donations make up a very small part of my blog income — most of it is from advertising, and none of that is in the posts — I keep almost all ads in the sidebar to the right.

Even if it doesn’t seem like it, I do work hard to produce good content for this site, and I hope it doesn’t seem too commercial of me to get some compensation in return. I’m not asking for millions of dollars or anything, and I do try to keep the advertising and other forms of revenue to a minimum. I don’t put advertising across the top of the site, or across the left or bottom, or in any of the posts, because I don’t like to flood you guys with ads. I hope that shows.

Finally, I just want to thank all of you for your criticism. It always helps, it always makes me better, and I know that even if it doesn’t seem like it, you are doing it out of love. :) For those who won’t be coming back, I’m sorry for that and I will miss you.

Thanks everyone!

Jonathan B. Says:

June 5th, 2008, 16:53 pm

“Most of my posts, by far, don’t mention anything for sale.”

Yes, that is what I was hinting at in my previous comment.

Thanks for your response, Leo. I’ll keep reading your blog. And on the rare occasions you write about something that I don’t find interesting, I’ll simply skip over it. Not so hard.

Have fun on your honeymoon. We look forward to more posts when you’re not so busy!

Gonzo Bill Says:

June 5th, 2008, 16:56 pm

Gosh, Leo, do you have to kiss their butts that way?

That’s sickening.

Why not be a man and show some resentment?

Leo Says:

June 5th, 2008, 17:09 pm

@Jonathan B: Thanks! I forgot to mention that the few posts where I do have ebooks for sale are only published because I really think the ebooks will be of interest and use to you readers. I don’t do the posts just to make money — I always try to keep the readers best interest in mind. That’s extremely important to me.

@Gonzo Bill: I’m sorry you feel that way. I have always, from the earliest days of this blog, tried to take criticism without responding negatively. I don’t feel that resentment is of any use in these discussions — it only makes things worse.

To me, it’s better to accept criticism, take from it what will help improve you, and clarify those things that you don’t agree with.

And while others might feel the need to say things that are mean, I don’t feel the need to engage in that kind of thing. It only brings me down. I don’t allow people to bring me down like that — I’m a better person than that.

If you don’t agree, I respect your opinion, but I will remain true to myself. :)

MichelleNZ Says:

June 5th, 2008, 17:10 pm

I think we’ve all been thoroughly spoiled with Leo’s prolific and insightful writing. Now that he’s slowed up a bit, some of us are behaving like spoilt brats!

That e-book ad was so timely for me as a adult learner. I’m really struggling with study and although I may not buy the e-book, I have gotten great value out of the preview and Scott’s site.

Keep up the great work Leo - I still check every day for new posts.

Michelle from New Zealand

Peter Says:

June 5th, 2008, 17:11 pm

leo, you basically said “ok, you caught me out ”

It is a better model if you post more frequently to get the readership to come back a few times a day, because the more clicks, the more ad revenue. That is the best model. I’m sure you got your book deal based on this website and its following, so dont mess it up now. This is your PR soapbox. I think you should ditch that other ebook site too, and post the information or your interpretation of it here more frequently… it would give you better financial returns and credibility.

Leo Says:

June 5th, 2008, 17:18 pm

Hi Peter … thanks for your input. However, I don’t feel like anyone “caught me out”. :) I feel like I’ve kept this blog in line with my values, but I will take the criticism to heart and post less about ebooks (even less than I have so far).

Regarding posting more than I have, I will get the frequency back up once 1) I’m done with my book, and 2) I’m back after my wedding and honeymoon (early July). However, I don’t think I’m going to try for more than once a day because a) it would be too much work for me (Lifehacker has like 4-5 strong, full-time or part-time writers) and b) when I was posting 6 times a week people said it was too much for them. So I’m aiming at 3-5 times a week (4-5 times once I get back from my honeymoon).

Thanks, though, for your suggestions … I do appreciate it.

Leo Says:

June 5th, 2008, 17:23 pm

One more thing, regarding Scott’s ebook: it isn’t for everyone, but I do hope it is of use to some people. I’ve already had emails from people who said it has really helped them, and if it helps even a few people learn better, I’m happy I shared it.

It is best for students who need help learning, who are overwhelmed and frustrated by rote learning. It is useful also to people who aren’t students but also try to learn things all the time (like me).

It isn’t good for people on a tight budget, for whom $20 seems like too much for an ebook. If the ebook is too expensive, don’t buy it! I don’t want to hurt anyone’s pocketbook. I’m hoping that those who can afford $20 will find that it’s a worthwhile investment, but for those who can’t afford it, skip this post! :)

I wouldn’t have offered this ebook on my blog if I didn’t think it would be useful to a lot of readers, but like any book, it won’t benefit every single person. If you feel like the ebook was a ripoff, please email me and I will issue you a full refund from my pocket (I do get a commission, but I will refund the full amount). I don’t want to rip anyone off. Seriously — email me and I will refund your money, no questions asked.

99ppp Says:

June 5th, 2008, 17:29 pm

“Now, I know that so far this post has sounded like an advertisement…”

C’mon Leo.. I don’t think it’s fair for people to begrudge you for trying to eke out a living, BUT to suggest that this post only SOUNDS like an advertisement is a bit disingenuous. It IS an advertisement. This could put your integrity in the eyes of others into question. I’m a critic in general of productivity blogs, but always considered yours a notable exception.

In this capitalist society, it’s often hard to gauge where the “sell-out” point is. If this product were something you sought out, bought and enjoyed, this would be a review post. But if you are getting a “cut” or some cross-promotional benefit, it’s an ad.

And by all means.. have ads! But I think some of your readers might resent you sneaking one in where they expect some non-commercial content. And it appears some have noticed. My two cents.

Leo Says:

June 5th, 2008, 17:32 pm

@99ppp: I really do appreciate that feedback … the post might sound too much like a commercial … however, I really didn’t intend for it to be an advertisement. It was meant to be a way to offer a great learning tool to readers who needed it … I read it and really liked it, and when the author offered a 50% discount to my readers, I really was happy to share that offer.

I do hear you, and others, that these kinds of offers and tools aren’t much appreciated, so I’ll try to keep them to a minimum — even less than I have so far.

99ppp Says:

June 5th, 2008, 17:45 pm

If you are not getting a “cut”, then it’s not an ad, and I take what I said back.. but if you are, it is one. This is a crucial distinction, and if you are getting NOTHING out of this offer, then you can clarify in the post.

Leo Says:

June 5th, 2008, 17:51 pm

@99ppp: No, I am getting a cut, but that wasn’t the motivation to do the post — that was my point. I didn’t do the post to make money, I did it to share something valuable with you guys. Making money from it is a nice side benefit, but it doesn’t matter all that much to me.

However, like I said, I do hear you, and I’ll take it to heart.

Leo Says:

June 5th, 2008, 17:54 pm

@99ppp: I guess what I should have said was that I am not disagreeing with you about the post being an ad — even if it wasn’t intended to be one. However, I disagree that I was being disingenuous … I really wasn’t trying to publish an ad, but more of a review to let people know about an ebook I thought would be helpful. It’s a distinction in my mind, but might not be in other peoples’ minds.

Herbert Says:

June 5th, 2008, 18:52 pm

Hi Leo,

I’m a relatively new reader to Zen Habits. I’ve thoroughly enjoyed reading your works, and have actually read the previews to the e-book, as well as a shorter free e-book on John H. Smith’s blog.

I can sympathize with the rest of the readers, as they must have been pretty agitated with the somewhat (I hoe you don’t mind me calling it that) erratic posting I’ve seen this week.

HOWEVER, I personally would like to thank you for writing this post and promoting Learn More, Study Less. I’m a student myself - not as hardworking, but a student nonetheless. I am extremely grateful that there’s a better way for me to learn - and I think I’m starting to get the concept of holistic learning already. I will be purchasing the e-book as soon as the exams I’m studying for are over (two weeks later). I don’t think holistic learning is something that can be learned in two weeks - and also, I’ve just got too much studying to do.

I hope your back heals soon, and congratulations on the wedding.

From,
Herbert

99ppp Says:

June 5th, 2008, 19:16 pm

I see you’ve edited the post.. good move. I didn’t put your integrity into question, I said “others might” and I am glad you rectified a phrase that can be construed as a rationalization for not calling the post an ad, which you now clarified that it was.

I didn’t call you disingenuous, but the ACT disingenuous if the intent was to neutralize a reader’s skepticism to being sold some product. It appears that it wasn’t, and you thought it would help your readers first. So I take that back, but I’m glad you concur that one can easily misunderstand.

Peace.

chris Says:

June 5th, 2008, 19:17 pm

Hey Leo,

You can’t win them all! I’m glad that you responded. And I understand where you are comming from. KEEP AT IT!

Leo Says:

June 5th, 2008, 20:16 pm

@99ppp: Yep, edited the post so it wouldn’t appear to be disingenuous, as I can see how you would think that. Thanks again for your input — it helped me learn a bit today. :)

@chris: Thanks for your encouragement as always!

Amram Jochabed Says:

June 5th, 2008, 21:18 pm

I have no encouragement for you, Leo.

All other posts are welcome, it seems, but not mine. I said not one insulting word to you, and only wanted to give you ALL ONE’S message, but you decided to take my encouragements away and leave these other heckler’s posts.

You are two-faced, Leo. You’re one Leo to the rest, and another to Amram. Thanks for nothing.

What did I do to you except tell you the TRUTH?

Jennifer D Says:

June 5th, 2008, 21:20 pm

From the preview of this book it is material I just covered in my Psychology 101 class. The book is cheaper, that is for sure.

Leo Says:

June 5th, 2008, 21:41 pm

@Amram: Your comments would be welcome if they were a part of the discussion related to the posts, but really they are completely unrelated, and you keep repeating the same message each time. I’ve left many of your comments up, but I can’t allow you to keep repeating long posts, over and over, that have nothing to do with the discussion.

I don’t mind negative comments, but after repeating the same message all the time it seems like spam.

Jonathan B. Says:

June 5th, 2008, 21:53 pm

Amram, posting New Age poetic mumbo jumbo about “ALL ONE” does not make you a wise guru. It makes you sound crazy. I saw your posts… it seemed like you were stoned. :)

The great thing I’ve always liked about Leo’s writings is that they apply to real life.

MeganMcC Says:

June 6th, 2008, 0:58 am

I think that perhaps some people commenting here need to grow up a little!, or be more tolerant and understanding - and not be all about ‘me, me, me’?

Sorry to be so harsh, but Leo is human, with feelings. How would you like it if you had given so much to your readers, built up such a wonderful community, only to have it thrown back in your face, when you become busy, or need some time out, or the quality suffers a little at times - no-one is perfect. No-one can provide the highest of standards all of the time. And there is nothing hidden in the fact that Leo also needs to earn a living for crying out loud. He is certainly not ‘hard-selling’ any of us!

ZenHabits was one of my first introductions to blogging of the highest quality and inspired me, or re-inspired me to keep going with my own, currently ‘hobby’ blog. I have an incurable illness, struggling with coping with the simplest of tasks - and to find this site was fantastic to say the least. Yes, I have noticed lessening of postings recently, but I am not ‘throwing out the baby with the bathwater’. I don’t know Leo personally but certainly admire his ZTD system and many other postings.

I was also amazed at negative comments made about another article by Leo about choosing contentment in life (I can’t remember the exact title now, but it was based on ‘Leo’s experiences in life’ - and not on other contexts, nor did the article promise to provide the answer to ‘life, the universe and everything’ )…

what is going on? I recently posted about that particular article on my blog and people’s responses - I was overwhelmed at the amount of negative and controversial comments to such a positive, inspirational, and just plain ‘feel-good’ post - There are many posts like this on the internet - why did Leo ‘cop it’??

For crying out loud. we are fortunate in that we have the internet and people like Leo, willing to contribute so much of their time and skills to GIVE US much, … yet when Leo strives to move forward, and grow himself, to look at opportunities in life, get married, get BUSY, and even get injured - we have some sour-pusses!

Again, I am sorry - that is harsh - but I think we should give Leo a break here - don’t desert him, when he probably needs us most.

He has given so much. Why can’t we at least wait a little, until Leo can return to the same levels of posting and such, if he chooses to do so.

Let him enjoy his wedding!!!!!! :-)

Loyal readers will stay and understand, I am sure. And I am sure that these negative postings are only a minority.

I also admire Leo’s attitude towards such posts, in accepting the criticism as constructive feedback and as a learning experience.

Enjoy Leo! I look forward to your return and I truly hope you have a wonderful, wonderful wedding!! (I also hope your back is ok)

Kind Regards
Meg

PS - and you are certainly not ‘hard-selling’, when you consider that the ‘Preview’ of this Ebook alone, is longer than some full length ebooks on the internet, which are complete ‘fluff’. Initially I thought perhaps it was overpriced, and wasn’t really sure what was in it, until I discovered the preview.

Very interested, because I too am writing an ebook on this topic, or similiar (albeit less on ‘learning techniques’, but more on overall strategies and tips for succeeding). How suprised was I to find that Scott’s ‘flow-notes’ approach was exactly the same way in which I took notes in my University (that’s Australian for ‘College’) classes, in all three of my degrees

THIS STUFF WORKS (to any students interested in the book) (I too am an A+ or High Distinction Student and won the University Medal twice, for my first two degrees, and commendations and medal from the Royal Geographical Sociey for my Doctorate (PhD) - I also know what works, from my experiences as tutorer and consultant Lecturer.

- and , no - like Scott, I am not saying this to brag, please don’t think this - I just want to illustrate that this style of note-taking WORKS (and so does his section on productivity, which was very much similiar to my own again, the tip included in the preview!

And if these short sections in Scott’s preview alone are anything to go by, then I would highly recommend this book (I have to look at my finances, but am certainly interested).

Oh - and there should be a link in the Preview, so that if people download it, but forget where it came from, they know where to go to purchase it!!! Talk about not selling properly! eek - See, its not all about hard-selling, making money - it is truly about trying to help people who may need it in this particular area (otherwise, there would be links throughout the Preview of - ‘click here to buy the full version’!!)

- and no, even though this ebook ‘ad’ and review is not of interest for everyone, this doesn’t mean to say it should be criticised. I wonder if some of the people here, who have been critical, would have been as critical if the product/ebook ‘was’ on a topic they were particularly interested in? Just curious :-)

I would be interested if anyone has bought the full book, if they had any comments, or more detailed review - or if Leo has time to give a more detailed one? But understand if you don’t have the time!

Great stuff!

Leo Says:

June 6th, 2008, 1:35 am

Thanks Meg … I appreciate your support, your encouragement, your well-wishing, and your interesting thoughts!

As for the negative comments, don’t worry too much about them — with a community of 57,000 readers, you will always find some people who disagree with what I do, no matter what I do. I will never make everyone happy, no matter how hard I try, and some people will always express their disagreement — it’s been like that from the beginning and it doesn’t bother me.

Instead, I try to use these negative comments as an insight into some of my readers, as an opportunity to grow, and as a way for me to practice my humility — while I could rail against them, and be negative in return, I know that without my readers I would have nothing, and for every little bit of feedback, negative or positive, I am grateful for their participation in this blog.

I have a wonderful community of readers, and if some of them aren’t happy, I’d like to hear it. :)

Thanks again, Meg!

Gareth Says:

June 6th, 2008, 6:44 am

Hi I had a look at the preview and I noticed a possible error in the index,
Visceralization; is it visualization?
just wanted you to know.

thanks

Jonathan B. Says:

June 6th, 2008, 9:24 am

Hi Gareth, I’m pretty sure he meant Visceralization. New word!

I’ve been reading more about this way of learning over the past couple days and honestly I think some of it just comes naturally. Scott says about himself: “School was never really more than an abstraction while I worked on more interesting projects.”

It seems to me that he was a more natural learner. His brain just picked up information more easily on its own compared to the average person. He might disagree with me on that. I’m not saying that he didn’t work hard or create his own Holistic Learning techniques. Of course he did.

To illustrate my point, imagine two runners. They both train equally hard. They want to run in the Olympics. One might go much farther in their goal than the other, and not because of lack of trying, but because one is just naturally a better runner. It’s a mix of nurture and nature.

I’m pretty smart. I wouldn’t call myself a genius and I don’t think I do as well academically as someone like Scott or Steve Pavlina does, but I am a better learner than most people (in my observations). I can pick up information with less effort. This isn’t something I taught myself, it’s just how I’ve always been since I was little.

I like to ramble, but I guess my point is that even though it is helpful to learn new techniques of learning, I don’t think we can all expect to use them as well as some others do. It seems our brains are wired for many different ways of storing information.

a reader Says:

June 6th, 2008, 13:25 pm

Bottom line for me is: $20 for an ebook is ludicrous. End of discussion. It’s a shame, really. For $10 I would have bitten.

Leo Says:

June 6th, 2008, 15:36 pm

@Gareth: No, not an error, Scott did mean visceralization … I’m not sure if that’s a new word or not, but I really like it myself. He explains it in more detail in the book I believe.

@a reader: Yes, I think $20 is a bit high for some readers, but others have bought it and have found it well worth the price. Personally, I think if you can afford it (and not everyone can, esp college students), it is worth the price — it will make your college (or high school) education worth the money you pay. That’s worth more than $20. :)

Jonathan B. Says:

June 6th, 2008, 16:48 pm

Hehe, college students. Ya know, I am a college student, and we can afford a lot more than we pretend we can. I’ve met so many college students who are “always broke” and yet they find the money go out drinking and eating out every week. Go figure! ;)

Peter Says:

June 6th, 2008, 17:27 pm

usually printed books, hard or softback are alot cheaper than 20 dollars… and they had to pay the printers, paper, packaging and distribution. An ebook like this one has no such expenses upfront, so the author is charging way over to top for this…. and to say the original price was 40 dollars is insulting to your readers intelligence and commitment to this blog

Leo Says:

June 6th, 2008, 20:05 pm

@Peter: Firstly, the original price was $40 — it’s not a lie. If you go to Scott’s blog, or other blogs selling this ebook, it’ll cost you $40.

Secondly, I hear what you’re saying about not having the same costs as a printed book, but in truth this is not the way a product is priced. What it’s really about is whether there is a demand for this kind of ebook, whether it has value to readers that’s worth that amount. And the truth is that there is a demand for this information — many people really would like to learn how to learn things in a smarter way, and this book definitely accomplishes that. And for those people, a book that can teach them that would be worth well more than $20.

No product is priced by the costs involved to produce it — if so, most of the things we buy would be a tenth of what they cost. What really matters is whether people think it’s worth that much, and in this case, many people do, including me.

Mark Says:

June 7th, 2008, 3:47 am

C’mon Leo, I’ve been reading your blog since 3k subscribers and you were one of my favorite bloggers I even pushed you to write the post on focus. I am very happy for you that you are able to make a living doing this, but your lack of attention to the blog lately is really showing.

Posts like this are fine, but you seriously need to update this post with a disclaimer that this is an ad (regardless of your intention) if you want to maintain credibility. I didn’t catch the original post or read through all the comments, but it is boggling my mind that you haven’t done this already. Its just like if you wrote about ZenDesk, you should say it is a sponsor, even if your post was out of genuine interest.

Leo Says:

June 7th, 2008, 4:39 am

Hi Mark … first, thanks for sticking around so long … I appreciate you being here. I will be focusing on this blog a bit more once my wedding and honeymoon are over (early July) but for now things are really hectic for me. Sorry about that!

I definitely hear you — I will add a disclaimer that there are affiliate links within the post, just for full disclosure. Thanks for your input!

Leo Says:

June 7th, 2008, 4:43 am

I’ve added the disclaimer, along with a note that I will issue a full refund if you’re not happy (the refund will come out of my pocket as I only get a percentage commission of each sale, but I don’t mind), no questions asked. I’m not trying to push anything on anyone that isn’t of great use.

Jonathan B. Says:

June 7th, 2008, 10:02 am

That’s very nice of you, Leo. Shows your character, but I feel it is unnecessary.

Anyone who buys the book, doesn’t like it, and then decides to have Leo pay them back for it is a tool. Hate to say it, but it’s true. It’s just $20. If you can’t afford that, then don’t buy the book. Don’t make a blog author pay for your MINOR misfortune.

Mark Says:

June 7th, 2008, 13:33 pm

Thanks for updating that Leo!

I guess I would say that you have raised the bar so high for yourself with the incredible quality and success of the blog thus far, that your fans will keep pushing you even higher! I know many bloggers would get away with something like this, but in my opinion you are an A-lister (whether you like it or not hehe ;).

I wish you continued success and I’m sure this is just the start for you and your web businesses.

Mark Says:

June 7th, 2008, 13:35 pm

Oh, and I didn’t realize the wedding/honeymoon was coming up now. Thats definitely more important, so enjoy every moment, and I’m sure we’ll all be around when you get back :)

MeganMcC Says:

June 7th, 2008, 14:03 pm

Hi again Leo

Many thanks for your reply to my comment - its always great to have a direct response, and you certainly have my respect in your attitude about your community, most certainly!

And to all - where have you been re: ebooks and pricing?? There are lots of ebooks out there at this price or more and it is often quite standard to have these ebooks at 50 pages, if that!! Scott’s ebook is about 200 or more pp!

This is a ‘REAL’ book, albeit digital.

‘Ebooks’ are quite different to hard copies of course - but as Leo also notes, its not just about overhead/printing costs, etc - its also about the value to the reader when it comes to pricing…

Also - some hard copy textbooks for college/uni. are well over $100!!

And - while there may be little printing/overhead costs for ebooks - there are other costs involved, which are NOT supported (as would be if in the traditional publishing area - for example

- the time taken in actually researching and writing the book (again, this ebook is over 200 pages - it is a REAL book, just digital)!!

- the time taken to present the ebook, create covers and put into the proper format for readability on all computers - software to do this costs money.

- time and money taken to MARKET the ebook - remember, this is ’self-publishing’!!! Costs sometimes involve webhosting, writing sales pages, taking time to get traffic and visitors, approaching people/friends to help you sell the ebook, etc, etc…

This is not ’something for nothing’. Nor is it overpriced - some ebooks can go up to 67.00 or more - again, it depends on the value, topic, markett, demand and scarcity of topic, etc, etc…..

So - try to balance things out.
I am definitely interested and if get a chance, am going to buy it based on the Preview alone - as noted in my other comment above - some people would just sell the preview for even 30.00!!!

So it is very reasonable - perhaps people in the blogosphere are not as well-versed in the more ‘hard-core’ internet marketing arena, or self-publishing arenas, if this type of info. is not known??

Again - Leo, you have outdone yourself! How can people complain that you are ’selling’, or this blog is becoming an ‘ad’ when you:

- are doing this for a friend
- provide a free preview of the ebook, which initself is quality
- offer a discount
- AND offer a full refund if people are not happy, where you lose out

There are not many places where you can find this!

Thanks again Leo :-)
Kind Regards
Meg

Peter Says:

June 7th, 2008, 19:18 pm

Megan, that defense was so porous, it had the opposite effect.
I think you will find that a physical book, apart from the Printing, binding, paper, ink, pre-press, packaging, and distribution also has…
“the time taken in actually researching and writing the book”
” the time taken to present the ebook, ”
” time and money taken to MARKET the ebook
where were you going with that argument ?
“and if get a chance, am going to buy”. So, why would you NOT have a chance ?… thats a proxy excuse meaning you won’t buy it, but you wanted to chime in.

Leo
“What really matters is whether people think it’s worth that much, ” well; by dropping the price 50% clearly suggests that neither they nor you think it’s worth that much.

Your readers pulled you out on this one, Leo (except the Texas polygamist sect candidates) Some felt so strongly, they left. Struggling in the quicksand just makes you sink deeper and look like you are in denial.

Max Says:

June 7th, 2008, 20:20 pm

Hello Leo,

As someone interested in purchasing this ebook, can you confirm if I will have problems displaying it under an operating system like Linux? Perhaps someone here can help confirming this?

Reason I ask is, because if the ebook is based on a closed format, with no available viewer for my particular distribution (Ubuntu Hardy Heron), I’ll have no choice but to skip it.

Kind regards,

Max.

Jonathan B. Says:

June 7th, 2008, 22:37 pm

@Peter, just because it’s 50% off doesn’t mean it’s not worth more, and it doesn’t mean Leo doesn’t think it’s worth more. Perhaps he’s just trying to offer his readers a good deal? To some people it might not be worth anything, and to others the information could be worth thousands. As for me, I checked out the preview and although it was interesting, I’m not going to buy the book.

Megan’s argument was simple. Ebooks are worth money, just like regular books.

There are plenty of books out there in the world and plenty of different prices. Many people consider the Bible to be the most valuable book in the world and you can get these for free. Yet, a mere Chemistry book for my college class that I couldn’t care less about will cost me over $100. Price isn’t everything.

@Max, the preview of the book is in PDF format. I believe the full version is too. I’m sure there are PDF readers available for Linux operating systems.

Leo Says:

June 7th, 2008, 22:40 pm

Thanks for your thoughts, guys. I appreciate the kind words.

@Peter: While a few readers weren’t happy with this post, many more (a couple hundred so far) bought the ebook and enjoyed it. I have listened to the comments here with interest, but I will never make everyone happy. I’m doing my best. :)

@Max: The ebook is in pdf format, so it should be readable in Linux if you have a pdf reader (and there are some for Ubuntu, I know).

Leo Says:

June 7th, 2008, 22:45 pm

@Max: I’m sure you already have a pdf viewer for Ubuntu Heron, but if not I can recommend XPDF or ePDFview.

Megan McCarthy Says:

June 8th, 2008, 8:34 am

@Peter

I have just about had enough! I have been reading such selfish comments here - and on another blog, and all I do when I write is try to help and support. (although I am grateful to the other more positive comments from other’s here too)

Yet to be blasted with such cr… - ! Who are you??
what do you mean ‘where am I going ..’ with my arguement….!
Of course I know hard copy books also have some of these costs - but remember, ebooks usually involve SELF PUBLISHING - so all of these costs are borne, usually by ONE person, the writer - whereas hard books are often sold in a bookshop and published - where costs are covered by the ‘PUBLISHER’ AND NOT THE WRITER, unless it is self published - as is the marketing - AND OFTEN HARD COPY BOOKS DON’T REQUIRE WEBHOSTING, SALES PAGES, AND SUCH - but there are some that do.

It all varies, it depends on the book. it depends on the value of that book to the buyer/reader - as Leo and others have said. Thankyou. And Leo’s reduction of the price does not reflect he value placed on it - as said, he is just trying to help people out.

UTLIMATELY, AS SOMEONE ELSE KINDLY PUT IT AND AGREED

EBOOKS ARE WORTH MONEY TOO. And where have you been, not to have seen the much-higher priced ebooks out there - this is quite a standard price for an ebook (although I must admit, I do think some ebooks are way overpriced for what they are). But certainly not this one.

And don’t insult me when I say ‘if’ I get a chance to buy this book - and that I said this just because I wanted to get my ‘bit’ in on this blog (ie comment or 2c worth). PLEASE DON’T INSULT ME. Not everyone has much money.

Don’t say such things when you don’t know a person’s background.

I am sorry Leo - this is probably not the place to say this, but perhaps people need to know a few things, before they make such comments, how they can affect people. We are not ‘computers’. There are ‘real’ people here - and I do admire your own restraint Leo - no, we can’t make everyone happy, as much as we try too.

Thank you again Leo - and for others who also note the value of the ebooks and Leo’s site, giving him a break.

Kind Regards
Meg

Megan McCarthy Says:

June 8th, 2008, 9:30 am

@Peter - I have calmed down now - to all, my apologies.

And I should actually thank you Peter. I have just bought and downloaded the ebook and bonuses, and am looking forward to reading it.

The anger I felt and spilled out, perhaps inappropriately, actually spurred me onto action! While I may not be able to afford this book, it will not ‘break’ me, and I really am interested, because as noted in another comment I wrote here, I am also writing an ebook on a similiar topic, because I too am an academic. So am very interested, and am also a fan of Scott and want to read more.

So - to all, I apologize for my outburst and sometimes, what we think is a negative, can turn into a positive :-)
I needed a push!

THANKS PETER!
And thanks Leo :-)

Kind Regards
Meg

Peter Says:

June 8th, 2008, 10:52 am

Megan, Megan
I was one of the first here to call leo out on this post. I dont agree with the posting or the price, but I could have written a much better defense of it than you did.

Why not, for example point out that being a digital media, that it is far more prone to copyright infringement than a physical book? or that not having the support of bookshops, its distribution will be lower, so it is priced higher to outweigh these hurdles of potential lost sales…. just offering suggestions ! (wow, What’s the opposite of a Devil’s Advocate ? because I think I was just him)

I didnt read the rest of your reply… it had the consistency of cold soup.

Leo, when we suggested you could possibly consider using guest authors to fill in for you ? well, we take it back now after seeing the capital lettered neurotic mess of a possibility just displayed.
Keep doing what you do best; writing, not selling other peoples books for them…. I actually like your posts… when you post.

Leo Says:

June 8th, 2008, 18:26 pm

Hi guys … what an interesting exchange. :)

@Peter, who wrote:

“Keep doing what you do best; writing, not selling other peoples books for them…. I actually like your posts… when you post.”

I will do my best! I’m going to try to be on here more, commenting and posting, but there will be a couple weeks (my honeymoon) when I’m awol, so I hope you can forgive that. I’ll be in Thailand … I’ll try to check email and comments every few days, but really I’d like to do it as little as possible. I will have some posts prepared, as well as some guest posts, to be published while I’m gone.

When I get back, this blog will be my complete focus again, as it was before. A wedding and honeymoon, as well as a book, can really take your focus, and I apologize for that. :) Thanks for your patience and encouragement!

Pearl Says:

June 9th, 2008, 2:40 am

Hi,

Thanks for great content as always.

Your blog is not at all hindered by your posting, it is hindered by the thoughtless comments of your readership.

I’m making a mental note not to click on the links to your blog from the RSS reader.

Thanks

JJSON Says:

June 9th, 2008, 12:06 pm

Leo,

Even though you have taken a lot of criticism for posting this Ebook link, I personally thank you for finding something that might help someone in my family that is finding it tough in High School as they prepare for Exams. This Ebook might be able to help them get better grades next year.

Thanks again.

The Observer Says:

June 10th, 2008, 13:25 pm

Megan and Peter, I ask of you in regards to argument driven posts, please refrain from wasting e-space on this blog site and exchange junk emails addresses with which to argue. While you… megan and peter may find your exchange to be interesting, it is only interesting to you. Each of you appears to seeking the last word and trying to “outwit” each other and this in not an appropriate place. This is not the place to let your egos run wild. It speaks volumes about you.

Thank you.

Megan McCarthy Says:

June 10th, 2008, 13:37 pm

@The Observer

Yes, I quite agree with you and do apologize - did apologise. It has stopped thankfully.

If you have ever read my other postings (not that I expect you have), they haven’t been like this. I was just not used to being attacked (or ‘feeling’ attacked). So, my initial reaction was to ‘fight back’, defend myself, which is silly because I now see where that was going and what a waste of space. No, I didn’t find it interesting at all, just hurtful and incredibly embarrasing.

But I learned from Leo’s great restraint. And I let go. - there have been no more comments - there were other things I had written, but I didn’t post them, because, again, I saw how this was heading and this was certainly not what I wanted at all.

So I do apologise Observer, and really do agree with you. I am so glad I learned from this and from your comment too! And hope others learn from this too, if ever this happens to them/between others. These ‘arguments’ of this type are not for blogs!

Kind Regards
Meg

Peter Says:

June 10th, 2008, 14:32 pm

@observer
By chiming in 3 days after we obviously wound that subject up, you are actually seeking to perpetuate what you are complaining about.
While our banter was animated, it was always on the topic of the thread, however, your “observation” had nothing to do with the thread or the original post.. at least Megans posts added her perspective on the ebook post, yours was the only post here which wasted e-space, because you posted about the posts, not the subject. I have the feeling that it is you who would like to have the last word…. we’ll see….

@megan
stand your ground, megan !

Megan McCarthy Says:

June 11th, 2008, 7:45 am

@Peter
Thank you Peter. Yes! I am grateful for your comment!

gerard Says:

June 11th, 2008, 17:07 pm

LEO: You wrote, “preparing for my wedding and honeymoon (two weeks from today!).”

Did I miss something? I thought you were already married!

Leo Says:

June 11th, 2008, 21:32 pm

@gerard: No, you’re right. :)

My wife and I were married civilly in a small ceremony, but next week, we will be getting married in our church in a religious ceremony, which is a much bigger deal here on Guam. We’re also having a reception with 300 people afterwards, so it’s requiring a lot of planning.

So yes, we’re already married, but we’re getting married again. Then we’re taking our honeymoon for the first time (we didn’t have one the first time), going to Thailand.

The wedding is next week Friday! :)

gerard Says:

June 12th, 2008, 15:14 pm

Congratulations, my friend! That will be a meaningful and special day and you BOTH deserve the honeymoon — all the best!

Niles Gibbs Says:

June 16th, 2008, 4:08 am

I feel the sentiment of the other readers, in that I’m more often skipping ZH posts in my feed reader. Seems that you can only tell people how to be productive so many ways before you run out of material.

The trick is getting people to look through the wealth of information already available on the site, since I’m guessing at this point anything you could want to accomplish in your life has already been covered (or at least enough general information exists for you to get it done.)

Also, if you don’t want to shell out the cash, try reading Young’s free ebook on holistic learning: http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/books/

I imagine it’s got a lot of cross-over material.

Finally, it’s only in proper form for full disclosure Leo, if you’re promoting a product that’s fine, but if you’re making money on promoting it you need to tell us.

Take a cue from other sites, when you have a connection with some external site/post/product, just tell us, and let us judge if any bias is present. I’m glad you’re updated the post.

Otherwise, congrats on the wedding and be happy!

Zeke Says:

June 16th, 2008, 21:43 pm

There’s a lot of crying over advertisement. It really comes down to whether you’re endorsing this book because you get a cut or whether you get a cut because you’re endorsing this book (and the order doesn’t really matter, much). The intent is what matters and the only way you make that intent clear is through the history of your blog.

I’m not a regular reader but from what I do read, it looks as though you’re not trying to screw anyone out of their money! Your endorsement is good enough for me. Unfortunately, the book is far too expensive for a self-published e-book! Others have said it, but for $10 I might have purchased it out of curiosity. As it is, I think I already learn this way and it’s not at all worth my $20 to find out for sure!

Niles Gibbs Says:

June 19th, 2008, 16:42 pm

If it’s just an affiliate link, then I take back what I said earlier.

What matters is what led up to the blog post. If the author (or any other financial interest) of a work comes to you and says promote this and you’ll get a cut, then that needs to be disclosed, even if you actually like the work.

But if you’re just promoting something you like, and using an affiliate system to take a cut, then that’s as old as Amazon (so to speak).

@Zeke: You’re right, it’s the intent that matters, and yes ZH’s history speaks to Leo’s honesty, and I’m sure that he’s not trying to swindle anybody.

My guess: The commenters and I are less upset about the book advert in and of itself, just venting that after weeks of sparse posting, Leo comes to us with a book review littered with “Buy now!” links for an overpriced ebook.

Leo is not in any way obligated to post regularly. Regular readers are just worried about the site’s future.

The problem is that a blog’s chronological format creates an expectation for regular new content. In fact, ZH has so much good information in its archives that at this point Leo could stop posting all together, and 99% of the time we’d find the information we’re looking for (or something that works) in the archives, if we looked.

What’d be great is if there was a ZH wiki that had all of the previous material in it. No one cares when the last time a wiki was updated as long as there’s useful information there.

When people see “abandoned” blogs they tend to ignore them, even if the blog is chock-full of information.

Otherwise, Leo, if you need a break, just take it! Holding us at bay with guest posts is only holding us away. Think about a wiki, then post as your time permits for really juicy information that you want to share.

Just some thoughts, be happy!

Stephen Smith Says:

June 19th, 2008, 21:47 pm

>>Niles, a wiki is a good idea, I will be sure to point out this comment to Leo upon his return.
Thanks!

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